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Do I put too much rosin?
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NoirVelours
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I wipe clean my strings after every practice, but during it they get caked and I have to scratch it off because it's like the sound goes weird? do I have bad rosin or it's normal or I put too much?

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You may have a cheap rosin. You may also be applying too much rosin.

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I'm glad you brought this topic up!  I was wondering about rosin build up on the strings.  I was browsing through the fiddlershop (creating my wish list) and didn't see anything for string cleaning.  

Would you normally clean violin strings aside from wiping them down?  

I've seen guitar players use denatured alcohol, but they don't have to worry about rosin build up!   

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Pierre, it's probably super cheap rosin because I don't see any cloud of dust on my violin after playing, just a wee bit. I checked in your beginner video and I see nothing on the *how to care for your violin*, you know humidity, how to clean it etc. Maybe it would be a nice addition?

EJ, I goggled it and they say once a month IF there is a build up, rubbing alcohol is the trick.

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NoirVelours said
I wipe clean my strings after every practice, but during it they get caked and I have to scratch it off because it's like the sound goes weird? do I have bad rosin or it's normal or I put too much?

I have the same problem. I've never paid any attention to the type of rosin I have, so maybe it's time to get some quality rosin. Think I'll go to Fiddlershop.

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FM is not selling it on Fiddlershop but yesterday he said he uses Andrea ($43). Osama I think was using  Paganini who is a lot cheaper. That raises the question: Is the violin having preferences on rosin also? Like this rosin works well on those strings who sounds better on your violin but not on mine etc.

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Update: FM is right, cheap rosin, I just read on a french forum that someone was having the exact same problem: sticky strings, accumulation of rosin on them. He switched to a better brand and everything was fine after.

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Try a dark rosin. They are generally stickier and a lot les powdery. I beleive FM has some dark rosin.

http://fiddlershop.com/DAddari.....name=rosin 

http://fiddlershop.com/DAddari.....name=rosin 

http://fiddlershop.com/Jade-ro.....name=rosin

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Thanks, NoirVelours and Kevin. I will definitely use your advice and links. coffee

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Kevin's absolutely right, and I know FM has mentioned the same thing; dark rosin seems to be better at grabbing the strings with a lot less mess.  I converted about 2 wks ago with much better results.

Btw, there is another thread somewhere (within the past month) that discusses cleaning your strings and bow hair,,,, very good thread, you should try to find it.

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I passed all morning (beside my practice for he's a pirate that I just finished) reading reviews on rosin lol. Like I told FM on the chatbox yesterday I want a dark one. I read that rosin can really improve your sound, many beginner who were using the rosin that came with their violin were amazed when they upgraded. I managed to bring my choices down to 3:

- L'Opéra Jade, Gustave Bernadel and Mellos (though I will probably order Mellos)

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http://laubachusa.com/  The rosin I recently purchased a couple week's ago, seem's to be just fine.

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I actually have a great distributor for the Andrea rosin NV. Just haven't added it cause it is so expensive. I'll add it soon.
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Ok I'll check it out!

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I use cheap rosin. I wipe strings and violin after every practice. Have no problems. dunno Though out of curiosity want to try dark rosin. Was said it's better in our climate =)

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There's at least one benefit to rosin building up on the strings...it shows where your bow has been. I've been surprised to see rosin on the strings over the bottom part of the fingerboard, when I thought that I had been keeping it fairly parallel to the bridge. Evidently not.

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Bowing melts some rosin which is thrown off as very tiny rosin droplets.  These then deposit on strings due to electrostatic attraction and form rosin crud.  You can even find the crud underneath the strings.  You can see the crud with 10X+ magnification OR just scratch the string lightly with a fingernail.  Microclothes can not remove the real rosin deposits. It needs a solvent.

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I'll have to look around for a crud solvent.

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Jack Daniels should work if rubbing alcohol not available smile

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@ Kinda

Incidentally, an informal forum survey suggests that most accomplished players use less rosin than the general amateur population. 

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