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NoirVelours
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Wish me luck!

I finally received my violin collection of medieval song and dances, court music, renaissance popular music and dance band in the mail and I can't wait to start leaning them! I think I will start with Estampie royale (13th century French) and will make a practice video in a couple of weeks. I'm really motivated by those medieval songs, it's not baroque but I prefer to pave my road to baroque with music I like instead of boring songs that have me put the violin down after 20 min only even if they are good practice, eh, I'm like that.

"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov

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Sounds like a lot of fun, look forward to seeing a video smile  I myself have always been of the belief that you have to enjoy what you are doing, especially when it comes to this instrument.  Have fun and enjoy.

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Good luck, NV! Sounds like a lot of fun. I've enjoyed learning a lot of early American/Colonial-era tunes, myself.

Yes, you must post a video when you're ready. I'll be interested to hear some of these medieval pieces. And we expect to see you in full medieval costume!

When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,

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These sound great. Where did you purchase the collection? I love that era of music. I look forward to your progress.

By chance, have you made any headway on the bow problems that's been troubling you yet? I hope you find a solution and it doesn't hinder your play.

"I find your lack of Fiddle, disturbing" - Darth Vader

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I read more reviews on incredibows and they are good and durable. I think that's my only quality vegan option so far. I will order one soon (need to pay for kitten shots and spaying before, she's at the vet right now, getting fixed tomorrow morning) and will give you my review. They say you can wait for 1 month more or less though before receiving it, so eh, still have some time with my horsehair bow which I then will use as a spare.

Anyone knows what (V) on my music sheet might means? It's written over a note and first time I see that. On the other sheets the bow up or down symbols are normal so this V in parenthesis means what?

"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov

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I believe the "V" would mean "up bow" in older music.  I could be wrong though....

I've seen it a few times before on older music that doesn't use the current markers for up/down bow.  I've also seen sometimes at the beginning of a phrase/part to show which stroke to start on.  

AND!  Welcome back!!!  Missed ya here!!

I was actually thinking about ya recently when I made started a topic on an old....kinda dark....Swedish folk tune!  It's not too hard and I think you'd like it!!

Check it out:

http://fiddlerman.com/forum/sh.....argalaten/

“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” ~Benjamin Franklin

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I'm sure the V = up bow..

@ fiddlebarb: If you haven't had the pleasure to see one of NoirVelours video's, dig through the forum archive's and try to find one. You are in for a treat, they are definately entertaining.

I found a couple, but for some reason I can't open their link's, nor could I copy and paste them here. 

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Because I made my video private on YouTube lol. I think I will remake them visible but only if you have the private link. I don't mind fellow violinists watching my videos but I'm real shy about showing them on the whole YouTube. 

 

Today's practice was tough! not the fingering or reading music but controlling my bowing and and not hitting other strings, I feel like I'm back to week 3 again lol. Time to go back to Franz Wohlfahrt studies for some serious technical practice! :)

 

EJ, that's a nice song!

"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov

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Good Luck, Noir! I'm glad, that You're fiddling again! Have fun vith your new collection. I'll wait for your videos. =)amuse

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I've been playing through some pieces of this Early Music book as well. The "Estampie royale" is supposed to be played ungodly fast, though I'm pretty sure I have the hang of it now. I do find that the book is a little scarce on bowing specifics that give it that modern impression of medieval flair; all that détaché doesn't quite cut it:

This is the version recommended in the book's introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh7aB_N-S-w

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"L'homme armé" is also a blast to play; I was impressed by how much more epic the medieval version could be before it got into the hands of Renaissance church choirs.

And I can't think of anything more romantic than playing "Par le regard de vos beaux yeux" on my bed at night next to an empty bottle of wine. And I also can't think of anything more comedic than playing "Par le regard de vos beaux yeux" poorly on my bed at night next to an empty bottle of wine.

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alrighty, wheres the update vid? I love this kind of music ever since David Bowies "Golden Years" was medievalized in the movie "A knights tale". 

"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.

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I'm not rushing things, I'll do a vid when I am satisfied of how I play. also pretty busy lately, I'm moving and I'm visiting apartments and everything that goes with it. I'm not starting on having to deal with new neighbors doing drugs daily and fighting all the time?

"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov

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NV take your time. We'll be here patiently waiting. I am the same way. If its not right to me, then I know it wont be right to others when I play. I think your living arrangement issues definitely should take priority. Good luck in house hunting.

"I find your lack of Fiddle, disturbing" - Darth Vader

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NoirVelours said
I read more reviews on incredibows and they are good and durable.

I actually got to play with an Incredibow and it was all that and a bag of chips. Light, amazingly responsive, great sound. The grip was a bit larger than the bow I had been using and it felt like rubber, which led me to put a BowMaster on my wood bow and it has been a great help with my double-jointed-ness and general bow troubles. I would recommend the Incredibow :-)

 

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I also played with an Incredibow today. It is light, but it takes some getting used to. Also, the "hairs" is actually a ribbon. From the owner, it needs ALOT of rosin. The bow tended to bounce for me, but I was told it takes about an hour to adjust for that. It looks like a Boroque bow, in that it is very taunt and has a somewhat backwards arc to it. It seemed a tad bit wider holding it. As stated by CatMcCall, there is a grip where the frog is. Not sure if its rubber or not, but it does have a different feel to it. Not a bad feel, just different.

 

I think it is worth trying out.

 

 

"I find your lack of Fiddle, disturbing" - Darth Vader

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