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Gliga Genial 1 or Primavera Loreato Plus
Which violin should I buy?
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Hello,

I am new to the forum and to learning the violin. I'm an adult beginner and hope to start lessons shortly, but first I need to choose my violin.

I live in the UK and am considering two violins from the Violin Company but I can't choose between these two

the Gliga Genial 1 and the Primavera Loreato Plus

Has anyone any suggestions?

Thanks!

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I have heard good things about the Gliga, but I must admit that I'm unfamiliar with the Primavera. If they are both available from the same shop, perhaps they can tell you about the differences, so you can make an informed decision between the two.

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Thanks! From what I've read, the Gliga is a very popular make, although I can't find much about this particular model. I understand it's the bottom of the Gliga range but a very good student choice. The Loreato has some good reviews on the site and when I emailed the shop, they told me I couldn't go wrong with either the Loreato or the Gliga. I really like the appearance of the Loreato, while the Gliga has a matt finish. The descriptions of both are very positive. Not that it's important, but I love the purple case of the Gliga.  I know the shop import their Gligas, while the Loreato is set-up by them.

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Hi Alex,
Wherrabouts in the Uk are you from?
I live about 30-40mins from Birmingham and found a violin from Turner violins in the Custard Factory, city centre.
I don't know if they stock the models you mention, but as an adult beginner myself, I tried a few of the Stentors and plummed for the StudentII as a good package for about £80.
I'm probably ready for a PX now having been playing for about 6 months (at least 2-4 hours per day) and they do a PX deal too.
Might be worth checking them out before you decide.

And if you need a shoulder rest, check out a custom model from ftufc on this site before you buy one. I'll have one here to try in a few days. (bloody weather permitting Lol)

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Barry said

When people buy their first violin its normally the appearance that attracts them. Some folks even opting for brightly painted fiddles. On down the road as you progress sound and tone and ease in playing becomes the focus of your quest, then you start experimenting with bows...yep, never seems to end.

I bought my first one online, the others Ive been able to play before buying and even had the person at the shop play one so I could hear it like others would.

 

Good luck and welcome aboard

I hear EJ is looking for one in leopard skin!

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Hi Terry and Barry,

 

I'm from Leeds. There are shops where I could hear them, like Hobgoblin, but I don't know what to listen for, to be honest. I tend to buy online for everything because I've a condition that affects my mobility. I may end up ordering one so that I can try it as they let you try and return for a refund. They've been very helpful at answering all my queries and don't think I can go wrong with either.

Both violins are the same price and my budget was up to £250. I wanted something that would last a while so I wouldn't have to part-ex too soon and luckily, as I stilll live at home I can afford it. I know appearance isn't everything but I do like the finish on the Loreato. Then again, Gliga is a very popular make. I know I don't want a coloured one. That's just personal preference, although they do look impressive.

I'm undecided about a shoulder rest. I have a condition that means my balance is poor so I'll be playing sitting down most of the time. I don't know if it will help me or get in the way. I'm going to get one after I start, if my teacher recommends it.

What music books would you recommend? I am planning to get the Fiddle Time series and maybe the Stepping Stone series for practising myself but probably work on other stuff, like some classical with my teacher. I know Fiddle Time is for kids but my sight reading is abysmal so I need to start simple and I actually really like some of the tunes. The CD, I think, is a must too.

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TerryT said

I hear EJ is looking for one in leopard skin!

 

Now that would look amazing!

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NoxGold175 said

TerryT said

I hear EJ is looking for one in leopard

Now that would look amazing!

yeah NoxG, did anyone warn you there are more than a few crazies on this site dazed
I've seen some Tigerstripe backpanels around.......

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I'm not familiar with either of those violins but wish you luck in your pursuit. Welcome to the forum NoxGold175. smile

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but the one who needs the least."

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NoxGold175 said

Hi Terry and Barry,

 

I'm from Leeds. There are shops where I could hear them, like Hobgoblin, but I don't know what to listen for, to be honest. I tend to buy online for everything because I've a condition that affects my mobility. I may end up ordering one so that I can try it as they let you try and return for a refund. They've been very helpful at answering all my queries and don't think I can go wrong with either.

Both violins are the same price and my budget was up to £250. I wanted something that would last a while so I wouldn't have to part-ex too soon and luckily, as I stilll live at home I can afford it. I know appearance isn't everything but I do like the finish on the Loreato. Then again, Gliga is a very popular make. I know I don't want a coloured one. That's just personal preference, although they do look impressive.

I'm undecided about a shoulder rest. I have a condition that means my balance is poor so I'll be playing sitting down most of the time. I don't know if it will help me or get in the way. I'm going to get one after I start, if my teacher recommends it.

What music books would you recommend? I am planning to get the Fiddle Time series and maybe the Stepping Stone series for practising myself but probably work on other stuff, like some classical with my teacher. I know Fiddle Time is for kids but my sight reading is abysmal so I need to start simple and I actually really like some of the tunes. The CD, I think, is a must too.

Sounds like a good plan to me.
My teacher used a book called "Team Strings" from Faber music. From square 1 and comes with a Playalong CD, which was good for a beginner like me.
Only problem I found was there wasn't much work on the E string.
I also bought and used Vol1 &2 of Strictly
Strings from Highland/Etling. £6 each from a more local music store. Great for building up your knowledge step by step.
Do you intend having lessons or (as many ppl do) just use Fiddlerman tutorials?

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I can give you the ISBN codes for the books if you ar interested
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That would be great, thanks! They sound like good books. The E string is the one I'm most apprehensive about because it can sound so screechy.

I have spoken to a teacher about having lessons. We are going to start at the end of July as the next two weeks are a bit busy for me.

Thanks for all your help so far. On an unrelated note, I love the 'verify you are human' test on this site. So much nicer than a captcha, which I can never read.

Right, bedtime for me. Speak to you tomorrow maybe. It's actually midnight here.

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Tell me about it, lol.
It's good to have someone this side of the pond, when most if my Fiddlerman friends are asleep or at work,
Except FM, he's in a different time-zone to the rest of us. I'm
Gonna start a rumour that he is actually a Martian shape-shifter!

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huh, the sun is still up here.  this has made me want to play a little.  Anyway, welcome noxgold175.  i have visited this site almost every day since i started playing 6 months ago.  you can find anything you need right here.  keep checking in.

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LOL Terry..... How do you know that I am not? 😉

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Well, I'm still torn. I asked the company for more of a comparison of the two violins and got this reply;

 

We set all our violins up in pretty much the same way except that we spend more time on the more expensive and "Plus" versions. So the Loreato Plus and the Gliga Genial 1 will be set up to the same standard.
 
At first glance the Loreato is a better instrument, it's shiny, has a really nice case and a Carbon Fibre bow. They do vary a bit in tonal quality but they are well worth the money.
 
The Gliga Genial 1 is the bottom of the Gliga Range and maybe doesn't use quite such nice wood, especially on the front, as the Loreato but they are more consistent from violin to violin in tonal quality. They also have a warmer sound, the G & D strings sound very full. The E is loud enough but not harsh.  
 
This is all interesting to me. The warm sound of the Gliga is quite promising and the full G and D strings, as personally I prefer the sound of the lower strings. I watched a video of the Loreato here  and it sounds very bright but I think in my hands the higher notes could sound harsh. Maybe the warmer, darker tones of the Gliga would be preferable to me. I do like the Gliga violins I've heard, although I can't seem to find the Genial model, mostly Gamas or Gems.
 
I am still very tempted by the look of the Loreato as I do love its appearance. I'm reassured by the same set-up being applied to both, as the Gligas are imported from Romania so I worried about the transit and also I read some stuff about the bridges being too high in some cases. But though the Loreato looks good to me, I'm tempted to wait for the Gliga. They have a great reputation and maybe looks aren't everything.
 
Any thoughts?
 
 
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Sounds a little whinny to me.

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ok, after looking over the posts on here, i would recomend the one of the cecelio's that fiddlerman has.  the tone seems better and you get more than just a salesman's opinion.  I like the 500.

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After some serious thinking about this subject of purchacing a violin, cheap or expensive, i've come to the conclusion that if you buy a really expensive violin, you'll be very happy. Another thought also came to my head that if you buy a really cheapo fiddle, we here in the FORUM, will continue to have something to talk about and insert a whole bunch of "PRICELESS" advice.  rofl

Good luck with your decision and purchace and welcome to the Fiddlerman website. I think you will enjoy it here with the rest of us wannabe's.  facepalm

 

           

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Thanks, guys! That's what I was thinking too. The Loreato is very bright sounding but some of those higher notes were a bit too much for me and I think in my hands, this tendency would be worse. I'm sure that guy is not a novice at all. The Loreato has a lot of reviews which are complimentary about its tonal qualities but even the shop admit that they will vary and at times I wasn't keen on the sound of this one.

I'm glad it's not just me so thanks! I'm very indecisive so although the shop have been great about not steering me too hard in any direction, that's why I really need to hear. I am definitely going to order the Gliga, even though I'll have to wait another week or two for it to arrive. The reputation of the maker and the greater consistency between individual violins is reassuring.

I have not found a video of the Genial violin (although there are some good ones of pleasant-sounding Genial violas) and some videos of Gliga Gems (the next model up) which sound warm but darker and more mellow. This beginner has posted some good videos with a Gliga Gems, like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....CavLGHmk-k

I won't be seeing my teacher til late July or August so actually the wait is probably a good thing. It would be too tempting having the violin around.

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