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How to end a fiddle tune
Some ideas on how to end a fiddle tune
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So someone asked on another forum how do you signal to other people in a jam that you want to end the tune. People had some great ideas, which I made into a little video so you could see the different techniques:

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Well, the topic does bring a joke to mind about how do you signal to a group of fiddlers that it is time to end the song..

The answer/punchline is the same as the old riddle about how do you get two violinists to play in perfect unison?

"Shoot one of them."

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Cool - thanks for the vid !  

Sort of "accidentally" discovered a few of the ways you showed us above, myself - but now I can put a "handle" on them - and have learned a few new ones as well !    ^5s  ( Must say, always like the "shave and a haircut" outro ! )

I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes.  

Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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LOL!  Hey @fiddlinsteudel Why? Why would you play a tune over and over and not mention the name?!

This is a great thread!  I have just been beginning to think of this and also kick off's.

At the jam I attend to end a song most of the guitar and mandolin players raise a foot. I think all the banjo players raise a foot.  There are maybe just 1-2 songs that people will do a kick off.

If I can make it through the whole song -

Ashokan Farewell - I have just been ending it.  Once I was able to play the true ending that goes up to high D and then down to D.  Some songs don't seem to need a special ending.

Soldiers Joy - I end with shave and a hair cut.  Everyone seems to enjoy it when I finish that way.  Or maybe they are just happy I was able to get through the song!!

I need some pretty finishes for Midnight on the Water and Tombigbee Waltz.

That single tag ending is great @:49.  

My usual .... "uugghh"  and add - "I just forgot the whole thing" , "oops, I just switched tunes"  or please someone finish it for me"!!

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@fiddlinsteudel LOL!  I knew I knew it!!  I have played St. Anne's Reel at jam.

Not sure what this kind of ending is called - for version of The Girl I Left Behind  that ends with a G on 3rd string I play E D B G then I roll down DGBG.  An arpeggio?

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Schaick said
LOL!  Hey @fiddlinsteudel Why? Why would you play a tune over and over and not mention the name?!

This is a great thread!  I have just been beginning to think of this and also kick off's.

At the jam I attend to end a song most of the guitar and mandolin players raise a foot. I think all the banjo players raise a foot.  There are maybe just 1-2 songs that people will do a kick off.

If I can make it through the whole song -

Ashokan Farewell - I have just been ending it.  Once I was able to play the true ending that goes up to high D and then down to D.  Some songs don't seem to need a special ending.

Soldiers Joy - I end with shave and a hair cut.  Everyone seems to enjoy it when I finish that way.  Or maybe they are just happy I was able to get through the song!!

I need some pretty finishes for Midnight on the Water and Tombigbee Waltz.

That single tag ending is great @:49.  

My usual .... "uugghh"  and add - "I just forgot the whole thing" , "oops, I just switched tunes"  or please someone finish it for me"!!

Ohhh thanks for the name of Tombigbee Waltz.  Just looked it up on youtube and LOVE it.  I'd love to learn it too. 

 

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@1stimestar Have you seen this thread?

http://fiddlerman.com/forum/co.....FormAnchor

This is the version I play.:tombigbee-waltz.pngImage Enlarger

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@fiddlinsteudel : Thanks for the vid. That's really helpful. Not so sure that the rock and roll strum would go over so well  :) and I think it might be hard to get others to slow down at the same rate with the ritardando one, but I'll give the others a try.

Funny story... at the bluegrass slow jams that I attend, the foot-lift is the most common method for ending a song. At the last jam, I was leading a song (on mando) and when we got to the end, I lifted my foot but everybody just kept playing and I couldn't understand why.

I was perplexed because it seemed like I just couldn't get them to stop! It finally deteriorated into a rather messy ending. Apparently, I hadn't lifted my foot high enough. Some folks weren't sure if it was an actual song-ending foot-lift and others didn't see it at all.

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Oh Diane.. you are really going to have to KICK to get them to stop.. :)

Funny Story.   :) exactly

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@fiddlinsteudel - I forgot to say how much I LOVE LOVE your video!!!

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Schaick said
@fiddlinsteudel LOL!  I knew I knew it!!  I have played St. Anne's Reel at jam.

Not sure what this kind of ending is called - for version of The Girl I Left Behind  that ends with a G on 3rd string I play E D B G then I roll down DGBG.  An arpeggio?

Without hearing it I would guess that's a single tag ending. A single can really be anything you want, just has to happen over one measure (i think).

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KindaScratchy said
@fiddlinsteudel : Thanks for the vid. That's really helpful. Not so sure that the rock and roll strum would go over so well  :) and I think it might be hard to get others to slow down at the same rate with the ritardando one, but I'll give the others a try.

Funny story... at the bluegrass slow jams that I attend, the foot-lift is the most common method for ending a song. At the last jam, I was leading a song (on mando) and when we got to the end, I lifted my foot but everybody just kept playing and I couldn't understand why.

I was perplexed because it seemed like I just couldn't get them to stop! It finally deteriorated into a rather messy ending. Apparently, I hadn't lifted my foot high enough. Some folks weren't sure if it was an actual song-ending foot-lift and others didn't see it at all.

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Have been there ... sometimes you watch people and they get into the song and they start lifting their leg and I'm like "Ahhh they want to end it ... oh wait, no they want to keep playing ... oh wait no wait aaaaaaaahhhh"

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Yes that is it @fiddlinsteudel  Simple and sweet - people at the jam I attend seem to really like it.

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