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Kiara
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Hello again!

First things first, happy new year to everyone! I hope that this year is a great one for everyone.

Okay, so I have been playing the harp lately (I have replaced all but 2 strings for those who read my last thread on re-stringing the harp). And I realise that I need to learn to read bass clef, (oh, joy) which is something that I have been putting off learning. It has also been something that I've wanted to learn in the past so i could play songs on the violin that were originally for say, the cello, or piano etc.

I was wondering if anyone has any tips on learning to read a new clef? Any tricks that would speed up the process??

Thanks in advance. :D

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Hey @Kiara , 

I'm pretty new to reading even the Treble Clef. I have a few things that help me on the proccess of reading.

1)Read the Lines with a strong voice and the spaces with a weak one (DO re MI fa SOL la SI do ...), it helps when counting. I used to get lost all the time before doing this, but now it's a walk in the park.

2) Memorize the C Major scale backwards (CBAGFEDC). This way, when you're counting backwards, you get faster and don't stop to think "what was that note".

3)Memorize where the Fs are. The Bass Clef uses F3 in the fourth line, find out where F2 and F4 are and you can count faster if you want to hit those higher or lower notes.

4)Play arpeggios while reading the sheets, this way you might practice to count faster.

These tips might be a bit silly or even obvious to you, but they really help me when I try to read sheet music. It's all a matter of memorizing and practicing... I really hope my tips are of any use to you. Good luck! :)

Skype: augustoad Email: augustoaguieiras@hotmail.com Phone number/whatsapp: +55 42 9861-4084. I'd be happy to talk anything fiddle-related to anyone! :)

 

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Thanks for those tips @augustoad they are really good, and I wouldn't say they are silly or obvious (at least not to me ;))

I'll definitely try them.

Thanks again.

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A thing that helped me learn to read bass clef (and some of the others, like alto) was finding out that you can think of it all as one big staff, really.  Just for the different instruments and ranges, you are looking at a different part of it. 

If you draw the treble clef staff and then the bass clef staff under it, and then put one ledger line between the two, the ledger line between the two will be middle C.  The C you play with the 3rd finger on the G string of a violin in first position. 

Maybe I'm weird, but for me that made it easier.  I didn't have to think of it as "learning a new clef" since it is just an extension of the treble clef that way and key signatures can also clue you with a reminder of what line is what.

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@DanielB that's a great tip as well, I could have thought of that - I've seen it in a book I read last month. 

Skype: augustoad Email: augustoaguieiras@hotmail.com Phone number/whatsapp: +55 42 9861-4084. I'd be happy to talk anything fiddle-related to anyone! :)

 

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Ah that makes a lot of sense @DanielB thanks. :)

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What I do when looking at bass clef is see the notes as being a third higher. In other words, when I see what looks like an A when reading bass clef, I lift in my mind up to the next space above to see a C. Since I rarely ever read bass clef this works for me. Of course you'll be a couple of octaves off (2 octaves above) but you'll see the right notes. :) You can eventually learn to read like this pretty fast. You can experiment with the octaves at times to suit better but at least you can learn the piece.

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Yes that's what I do Pierre :) but it can take me a while.

Thank ye

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concurrently learn piano?

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That would work Jesse @wookieman I would really need to be able to read bass then. :)

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There's a quick way to transpose sheets from Bass clef to treble but it's not 100% perfect. You can scan or import a TIFF file of the sheet music to SmartScore and open it with Finale, then select all and transpose to treble clef.

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Thanks Pierre @Fiddlerman I'll see if I can work that out, sounds a bit too tech savvy for me lol facepalm

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Might be too expensive though. There might be cheaper programs.

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@fiddlerguy Yes. Learning to read music is probably cheaper. ;)

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I'm afraid you'll have to learn it exactly the same way that you learned the treble clef.  There is no substitute for rote memorization.

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I think you are right Karl @Uzi Thanks :)

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