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sore right wrist!!!
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JuanFiddler
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February 25, 2013 - 8:38 am
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Pierre and folks @ fiddlerman,

I need your help since I hurt my right wrist playing. This problem built up for a while and by watching previous videos of me playing, I came to realize that everytime i would go on a downbow, my wrist would turn counter clock wise generating tension. Right now, it's been 2 days without playing. I need guidance on drawing the bow back and forth since it is a motion that should look natural and effortless.

I would appreciate if you guys could get back to me on this issue to see how I can fix it.

Thank you all very much.

 

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Hopefully somebody with more knowledge can give you some advise but here is my two cents.

I noticed I would do the same thing from time to time. I think it was how I would create enough pressure towards the tip of the bow to keep the sound the same. By turning your wrist you adding more pressure to the index finger and in turn adding pressure to the bow. 

My instructor told me to reduce downward pressure from the pinky and use an upward lifting pressure from the ring finger along with some downward pressure from the index to increase the weight of the bow when playing in the upper half. My wrist will still rotate some but not like it used to.

Wither this is a proper way to do it...i dont know but it seems to be working for me. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.

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@ Juan,,, it seem's to me that in your other post, "Ashokan with Shifting's", I mentioned your bowing wrist and told you to watch it, but you said you had it under control, so I never said anymore about it.

I hope it get's well and you can start playing again.  

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February 27, 2013 - 8:59 pm
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I'm curious where your pain is, Juan. As some folks might remember, I've been dealing with some pain in my right wrist since last fall. My pain has been just above my wrist bone on the under side and occurs mostly when I grip something and move my had inward.

I finally went to see a hand surgeon and his diagnosis was De Quervain's tendonitis. Here's some info:

http://www.assh.org/Public/Han.....nitis.aspx

I've been wearing a brace for about a month, which I think has helped. It's a brace that immobilizes the thumb and is different from the brace that you may have seen me wearing in a couple of videos.

If this sounds like your problem, you might want to go see a hand surgeon or, at least, get a brace.

Hope that helps! -- Diane

 

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Fiddlerman
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February 28, 2013 - 11:03 pm
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A good warm up with emphasis on relaxing your right wrist would be good. Try not to bend it too much. You may consider using some wrapping to give more support and to train you not to bend it too much.
The key to good long productive practice sessions is to relax.

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There are several Fiddlerman video tutorials

- Finger flexibility for smooth bow changes

- Learn to play Row Row Row your Boat

- Learn to play fast G major scale

- Trills on the Violin

Thanks for these.

 

After finding those, I am still wondering if there is any video tutorial here on the following slightly-related-but-not-quite-addressed issue (in what I have viewed) ?

 

Concerning the right wrist and fast playing and repeated notes and smooth bow changes (i.e. four of the five elements above rolled into one different issue)...

 

What are the merits or demerits of using the right wrist/hand versus using the right elbow/forearm when bowing repeated notes quickly. E.g. What shall we do with the drunken sailor  : for the viola it begins with and  later uses B played 7 times consecutively, sometimes as quavers (3 off) and sometimes as semi-quavers (4 off).

 

I can do that readily with either: pivot at the elbow or: pivot at the wrist, which of these two is preferable ?

 

It becomes a larger issue because at higher speeds in theory I should be physiologically better able to change direction of the bow from the wrist than from the elbow because my hand weighs less than my forearm so has less momentum to overcome when changing direction and should be able to change direction faster for demi-semi-quavers (or even for hemi-demi-semi-quavers ... can hemi-demi-semi-quavers be played on a viola at all ?)

 

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Fiddlerman
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May 25, 2013 - 8:57 am
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You need to use a little wrist so if you are playing very fast with small movements the wrist is fine but don't bend the wrist forward too much, it just makes the grip weak and puts the bow at a bad angle. IMAO, the wrist should actually bend upwards slightly, especially on a down bow. On the majority of your strokes you should be using your right elbow and allowing the wrist and fingers to be flexible.

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