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The "Wolf" notes on the violin
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Mad_Wed
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On my acoustic violin i have at least 2  "Wolf" notes. They are on A string: D and E. Especially D makes me crazy, because i use it often – it is always or too loud or squeaky, depends of bow preassure. If i play legato – it pops up and shouts ugly yell

So: i know that it does not depend of strings (i changed them – same result). I know that it does not depends so much of me – i play D on my e-violin without any problems amuse 

BUT: My teacher plays on my violin – and D sounds NICEduncecap It's still a bit louder, but if you don't concentrate on it – you can not even notice. She's heard that "Wolf" note, while i played and said that since i'm new with violin – it happens duncecap. I asked her about how she does that note almost normal – she couldn't explane.

So my questions:

1) What is That Magic Thing that makes "Wolf" note normal or reduces that floping in the sound?

2) What am i doing wrong to get a "Wolf" note?

 

Had anybody similar broblem? Is there any solutions or i just have to go to the luthier? duncecap

Thank You for any suggestions…

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I hate wolf tones! I had a violin once that had a wolf tone on every note on the A string! It was so annoying! But then I got a new violin that doesn't have any wolf tones. But.. you probably don't want to have to buy a new violin. xD

 

Maybe you can find some help here:

http://www.violinist.com/discu.....m?id=10736

You could try a wolf eliminator.smile

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Thank You, Mustang. birthday_balloon That's very interesting – i'll keep experimenting with bridge placement – that seems like an option (i hope). Also there was a post where "control of wolf" was mentioned. I'm interested how to control a wolf. Technically. That must be unspeakable if my teacher couldn't explane me.. =/

But i'm interested if someone've got rid of it without getting rid of instrument? XD

 

PS: i tried wolf eliminator (looks like a rubber round thing) – it didn't help facepalm There's different types of that. Have anybody tried them?

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There is a steel one on E-Bay with a rubber tube inside and an acorn screw on top.  I don't know if it works or not.  ???

 

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Yep, BCShalom =) Thank You! I don't know too... I didn't use somethyng like this, that why i wanna ask people who did =/ But i guess not many people here used it...dunno I tried a rubber one - it useless for my wolfy =).

I made some research with bridge placement - doesn't help, i definitely do something wrong with it, because when i move it out of normal position - wolfy moves too =)

it does not want to go anywhere LOL. If i tune violin up - it moves down, if i tune it down- wolfy goes up =)) actually that was very fun to try to get rid of it that way =) But now i'm almost sure that it's an internal resonance =)...

Thank you, fellows =)

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Try this video:

 

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I know of violinists that have gotten rid of their wolf tones by switching to low tension from high tension or from high tension to low tension strings. Also those who have bettered the situation by letting a luthier trim some wood of the bridge.

Hope one of these simple solutions can help.

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Never heard of a wolf tone. But Mustangs video explained well enough. Thanks. dancing

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Fiddlerman said:

I know of violinists that have gotten rid of their wolf tones by switching to low tension from high tension or from high tension to low tension strings. Also those who have bettered the situation by letting a luthier trim some wood of the bridge.

Hope one of these simple solutions can help.

Hmmm.. Thank You, FiddlerMan. I've heard about changing strings... But bridge....  /wrote down in violin notebook =)/


Thanks for video, Mustang! I think BCShalom was talking about that one too. I guess it's time for shopping. Hope they have some eliminators like this fish

Thanks again, guys!

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Never heard of a wolf tone. But Mustangs video explained well enough. Thanks. dancing

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this is good to know,now i will know that is not normal.. ty for the post on this.

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