FORUM

Please have a look at our Forum Rules. Lets keep this forum an enjoyable place to visit.

A A A
Avatar

Please consider registering
guest

sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —






— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_TopicIcon
Things I wish I'd learned...
Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 (0 votes) 
Avatar
Kiara
Members

Regulars
August 25, 2014 - 6:58 pm
Member Since: March 3, 2014
Forum Posts: 136
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hellooo!

So I was thinking the other day, what things do I wish I had learned earlier...... I'm not sure if there has been another thread similar to this so sorry if I am repeating anything. If you care to share any thoughts on the matter I'll look forward to reading.

I wish I had learned to sight read sooner. I can't remember too much from when I first started playing but when I stopped having lessons I would only play songs that I had heard and would pick up mostly by ear, sometimes using sheets. It's only fairly recently, mostly since joining my local orchestra that I have been reading music that I haven't heard, but it would have been helpful if I'd learned that sooner.

Counting. I guess this is along the lines of reading music, but I've never really learned to count in my head while playing etc.

Better posture... I don't have the greatest playing posture, have been trying to work on it though, I am known to stand with my legs crossed while playing, don't hold the violin up a lot of the time...

I also wish I had done more music theory, and played more scales.

These are just some things I have been thinking about, that I would try to do if I started over... I'm not trying to be negative or anything like that. Maybe I could make sure I teach these things to my student/s?? (if I ever get more than one), and maybe it can help anyone here who is starting out??? I dunno... facepalm

Feel free to disagree with anything I've said laughLooking forward to hearing what you all think.

Avatar
coolpinkone
California, the place of my heart
Members

Regulars
August 25, 2014 - 7:11 pm
Member Since: January 11, 2012
Forum Posts: 3754
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Great topic.  I wished I had learned a very consistent and loose left hand grip under  the supervision of a teacher. I think my intonation would have been more consistent with a consistent hold.  

I wish I had learned finger positions by feel instead of by tapes. 

I wish I had learned better bowing techniques.    

AND I WISH I LEARNED TO COUNT/TAP while playing.

But all that being said... It is fun to work on these things now and I am grateful for all that I have learned.

Thanks for the topic Kiara.

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

Avatar
Ferret
Byron Bay Australia
Members

Regulars
August 25, 2014 - 7:31 pm
Member Since: April 22, 2012
Forum Posts: 1575
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I'm not sure what I would have done differently. Am having a great time with the fiddle. Wouldn't want to change that.banana

And what if I hadn't found this forum because of something I did different. I probably would have given up by now.

I think I've still got time to learn a lot more. thumbs-up

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
August 25, 2014 - 7:59 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 11694

I wish I had learned to play more instruments. :)

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
RosinedUp
Honorary tenured advisor
Members

Regulars
August 25, 2014 - 8:05 pm
Member Since: September 7, 2012
Forum Posts: 985
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I'm self- and internet- taught. I'll mention some of the good and some of the bad in my learning.

My worst mistake of technique was in ignoring left-hand form that would have allowed me use the pinky.  I should have had the left hand farther from the nut, with the first finger pulled back, tight and square, and the stretching shared between the first and fourth fingers.

I also ignored my bow hold for half a year.  But I don't really regret that.  It was easy enough to start using the proper form (for me, Franco-Belgian) and get my bow stroke in shape.

I should have bought a better shoulder rest sooner.  The Bonmusica style is working pretty well for me now.

I should have followed the bowing directions on some sheet music.  My bowing has improved since I've started conforming that way sometimes.

I took an interest in analyzing and ear playing a lot of tunes, and that has taken me away from physical technique, I suppose.  But it has helped my overall understanding of music.

By biggest general mistake was in not reading any violin books.  That sort of encompasses all the other violin-learning mistakes I've made.  I've learned a lot just by reading something like thirty pages of Galamian's Principles.

Avatar
Barry
Members

Regulars
August 26, 2014 - 7:15 am
Member Since: June 30, 2011
Forum Posts: 2661
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Fiddlerman said
I wish I had learned to play more instruments. :)

you tried the mandolin yet ?   pretty easy cross over, just pizzacato with a pick.

 

what would of I done different ? Im guessing nothing, hindsight of course leaves us with a list of should of's . Should of been a cowboy

ostrich-chase

There is no shame in playing twinkle, youre playing Mozart

Avatar
Schaick
Members

Regulars
August 26, 2014 - 8:15 am
Member Since: December 25, 2013
Forum Posts: 841
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I agree with coolpinkone this is a great topic!  I am going to make sure I work on everything that is mentioned!!!

Especially that having a great time!!  Need to work on that a bit more, but how how can I add more enjoyment of playing the violin to what I am already having!!!

Violinist start date -  May 2013  

Fiddler start date - May 2014

FIDDLE- Gift from a dear friend. A 1930-40 german copy, of a french copy of a Stradivarius.  BOW - $50 carbon fiber. Strings - Dominants with E Pirastro Gold string.

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
August 26, 2014 - 8:38 am
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 11694

Barry said
........what would of I done different ? Im guessing nothing, hindsight of course leaves us with a list of should of's . Should of been a cowboy

ostrich-chase

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
Barry
Members

Regulars
August 26, 2014 - 10:11 am
Member Since: June 30, 2011
Forum Posts: 2661
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I used to play and sing that one a lot back in the day

There is no shame in playing twinkle, youre playing Mozart

Avatar
DanielB
Regulars

Members
August 26, 2014 - 11:26 am
Member Since: May 4, 2012
Forum Posts: 2379
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

This question or ones very similar have come up from time to time.

Each time I think it over again.

I still can't think of much where I feel things would have somehow been much better if I had only.. <fill in the blank>

My first year with violin was not particularly focused or disciplined.  But that was intentional.  I played the instrument like a kid with a new toy, trying anything that sounded or looked like it was fun or nifty.  I avoided any really disciplined or lengthy practice of basics, I just played whatever songs I could and had fun. Messed around to see what wierd and neat noises I could get, as well. 

I still think, that at least for me, that was the best way to start.  I did it to intentionally make the most of the "honeymoon period".  To get to know the instrument and sort of fall in love with playing it.  Taking time to basically "have a happy childhood" on the instrument, and build some pleasant playing memories, and some excitement for the potentials I could begin to see.  Taking some time to dream about how it could sound, as i explored what was going to be easy and what was going to take some work. 

The only thing I really required of myself in that first year was to play every day.  Using the "fun time" to build a habit of not only practising and playing ever day, but of looking forward to the moment when I first pick up the instrument for the day.  With that habit in place, after the first year was done, to practice scales and exercises to sound better when I play just feels natural.

At around 2.5 yrs now, that still keeps me going, and the moment I can pick up the violin each day is always one of the good moments.  I have learned other instruments in the course of my life, and some of them, I was just in too much of a rush to "get serious" on them. I don't feel they were as enjoyable to learn as they could have been. 

Anyway though.. No, I can't think of anything I would have done differently.  Other than maybe wishing sometimes that I hadn't let what I had heard of how difficult the instrument was to learn and how expensive people said it was to get an instrument that was good enough to even start to learn on hold me back from it.  There have been years in my life where I really could have used this much fun.

But meh..  

"If wishes were fishes, we'd have some fried

If wishes were dishes, they'd be washed and dried

if wishes were horses, all beggars would ride.."

LOL

We all do the best we can with who we are and what we can manage.  No shame in that, at all. 

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

Avatar
suresh
Tuticorin, India
Honorary advisor
Members

Regulars
October 11, 2014 - 10:47 am
Member Since: August 22, 2011
Forum Posts: 485
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Kiara said
.......

These are just some things I have been thinking about, that I would try to do if I started over... I'm not trying to be negative or anything like that. Maybe I could make sure I teach these things to my student/s?? (if I ever get more than one), and maybe it can help anyone here who is starting out??? I dunno... facepalm

Now that you are a teacher, are you educating your student/s these things?

Thanks for the topic..  I had also missed all those things.

If music be the food of love, play on;
Give me excess of it ..(William Shakespeare in Twelfth Night)

Forum Timezone: America/New_York

Most Users Ever Online: 231

Currently Online:
36 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today Ginnysg
Upcoming HeadCheese, lakelivr, harvestman, fiddlinmama

Top Posters:

coolpinkone: 3754

Mad_Wed: 2849

Barry: 2661

Fiddlestix: 2637

Oliver: 2439

DanielB: 2379

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 1

Members: 3549

Moderators: 0

Admins: 2

Forum Stats:

Groups: 16

Forums: 56

Topics: 6439

Posts: 80296

Newest Members:

coreshanethi, wisco kid, Yael, tobypaul, Yogesh Thakur, Eudora

Administrators: Fiddlerman: 11694, KindaScratchy: 1650