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Violin, set up variants and mod's
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Raggmopp
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First to let you know a bit more of how I think, and you'l know what ill made of.

 

When I was a child, I could never do the creative school assignments "correct".

When everyone made a slender pinguin with a straight beak, they all looked the same. But perfectly after the guide. So mine was fat and had a curved beak. 

When in art school I quit after a one and a half year, declearing that the teacher had nothing more to teach me. I bet he had but he had a set up where everyone did the same things and then repeated it the next year. So you see, I have a strong instinkt for going against the current. Trying to do it differently is for me more fun. even if its harder.

"If you cant do it correct, Do it fun" seems to be my cup of tea. coffee2 Just because its different don't mean its wrong.

 

Now having bougth a fiddle/viloin, And am happily tippy toing on the beginners assignments. I begin to wonder.

How manny ways to play are there, how manny ways to set it up is there.
I heard awsome street players play on only two strings, That being all they had. And supposedly there is a "gipsy" set up that only has three strings. Google shown me a variety of 4-5-8, and yes 16 strings on a violin.

So how manny variety's can we find? It seems the sky is the limit. violinclap

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Fiddlerman
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December 18, 2011 - 10:24 pm
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You will probably be a candidate for unique playing on the fiddle. It'll be fun to follow your progression.

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I had a very similar point of view when it came to playing guitar when I first started. Not only as it pertained to ways to play, but why certain styles and sounds were pigeonholed to a specific music. With mash-ups being so popular, that isn't quite the case any more on a popular level, though I still think it's something to be explored on a creative level (one of the few main reasons I've been wanting to pick up a violin for a few years, and am ecstatic that I have). 

I don't think anyone should try to force creativity or different for the sake of being considered unique, as that usually says nothing about skill or enjoyment, but embracing different ideas in learning, playing, studying, and implementation, especially when it comes naturally and doesn't seem forced, is where enjoyable, honest music comes from. 

Speed and skill and technicality are tools for creating. That's where the most esoteric joys are born. 

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adderob said

I don't think anyone should try to force creativity or different for the sake of being considered unique, as that usually says nothing about skill or enjoyment, but embracing different ideas in learning, playing, studying, and implementation, especially when it comes naturally and doesn't seem forced, is where enjoyable, honest music comes from. 

Speed and skill and technicality are tools for creating. That's where the most esoteric joys are born.  

 

I agree, there is a line here. I didnt see that as a 14 year old, but now I am "elder" and hopefully knows better. And its not that I don't listen or read your wisdom. But rather seem to most of the time tick differently than the rest of the"world". Not that the world is against me. (I hope.)

 

For me the Violin and its family, (And distant cousins all over the world) evoke the sense of adventure. From the snake skinned one stringed korean one whom names escape me, to the home made cigar-box fiddle. (I do have build plans on pdf, if thats your fancy.) Ive seen Violins from really poor places made out of whatever they could slap together, and they still manage to play good music on it. Even if it was made of a pice of chair and a oilbarrel beaten into shape.

Its not that I'm against tradition either, tradition is a good thing. It maintains stability. And I'm not shure what I am ranting about now so... Back to topic.

Diversity;
Thats what I'm talking/ranting about. Its mind boggling.dazed

I really love searching for this kind of things. It stirs my imagination. 

http://www.allmusicalinstrumen.....store.html
This design of this rare folk violin is just breathtaking, but how is it played?

http://chalumeau.wordpress.com.....uments-13/
Nykkelharpa, the sweedish(?) orgined instrument is also werry cool.

But back to the violin now, There are manny things we can to to affect the voice(volum?) and Pitch, its general sound. Different types of strings, mutes, filling the  § key things with cloth to dampen it? Yes? No? surprised

Traditionally tuned in G,D,A,E for classical music(?). But there got to be more ways to do it, Is the Key defined by the string or the tuning? Within the limit of the violins construction. (At the moment I think my E only tunes to a F.dunno)

 

And how far can you go until the fiddle is no longer a fiddle? But something else?
Yes, I am loaded with this mind stuff. And I hope I'm not to sporadic a writer for the readers to understand, I can get quite carried away sometimes.

 

Fiddlerman, If I do furfil that. I'll be a happy man, Cuz its not all about taking and wanting. One should give "something" back too.

Thank you all for enduring this large post. again; Hope it made sense. amuse

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Fiddlerman
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December 20, 2011 - 9:09 am
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I never saw the Hurdy Gurdy before. LOL, That's a cool one. Thanks for the links.

cheers

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Hurdy Gurdy is the instrument played by the hobo on top of the train in Polar Express.

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Fiddlerman
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December 20, 2011 - 1:32 pm
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Is that a fact Kevin. ;-]

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