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Violin sounds like a flute!
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NoirVelours
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Ok my super secret plan to play violin next Christmas at my family's party almost failed! I was practicing He's a Pirate and I heard someone coming up the stairs. I froze and skipped a heartbeat: my mother was at the door and it was impossible she did not hear me playing!

So I let her in after closing my bedroom door and she smiles at me and said:" Oh you were playing the flute? I heard you!" (Last evening I told her over the phone that me and my son were having fun with his toy ocarina and pennywhistle).

I quickly answered "Yes just goofing around" and she never doubted me!

How should I take this... my violin sounds like a flute? What the heck? Looks like I need a LOT MORE practice roflolfacepalm

"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov

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Or her hearing is going....

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I think it was clearly, the power of suggestion.  You told her you and your son were playing wind instruments,,, so that's what she heard!  Never knowing you had a violin stashed in your room, lmao, she'd not expect to hear that.  Riddle solved....1st-place

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Just keep playing NV and maybe think about giving up ecstasy ;-)

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You don't like the sound of the flute. LMAOROTFWOT

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ftufc said
I think it was clearly, the power of suggestion.

Oh then *hypnotic eyes* My playing is awesome,My playing is so pro!

"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov

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roflol Power of suggestion huh? Ok...

 

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I have encountered a similar situation on a few occasions.

My limited research suggests that there may have been excessive bass response with the combination of the string(s) and the violin.

That's for a regular wooden acoustic.

On the electric I can dial the flute in or out at will just by tinkering with the bass knob(s).

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PS  What does a "wolf" sound like.  (and don't say they howl!)

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They Howl ;-)

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AAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUHHHHH!

there you go, they sound like that

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laughing out loud ;-)

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Denny, that sounds like more of a prayer than a suggestive power!

I always thought my violin sounded more like a bag pipe,,,, don't get the flute.... sometimes the wolf; very nice onomatopoeia NV!

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Before the Wolf becomes extinct ........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_tone

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Oliver, I've occasionally seen a short tube on any string [usually the G or D] on the down side of the bridge and never knew what it was "wolf eliminator"; thanks.

I wonder if all violins, violas, & cellos create the "wolf" or just certain ones depending upon how they're shaped/carved.

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I wonder how many go unidentified and other "fixes" are tried ?

Also, I never actually heard a "wolf" and that would certainly be interesting.

I would guess that real "wolves" are rare and I would guess that I notice a report a few times a year BUT, again, are they identified correctly?  I don't know.

My encounters with "flutes" is more common.

Actually, I have a violin wolf eliminator but I'm not sure what to do about it. 

I did know one fine amateur who developed a "wolf" and he went right to an eliminator rather than mess with strings, etc.  Was his life time violin so maybe age is a factor ???  (violin age, not owner age laugh

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PS After much surfing I find that many things are blamed for wolf tones and a common claim is that all violins have wolf tones at some location on the fingerboard.

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NoirVelours said
Ok my super secret plan to play violin next Christmas at my family's party almost failed! ...

Well, but You still have your secret, Noir! LOL! Let them think You play flut....rofl

Though, agreed with FiddlerMan: You don't sound like a flut =)birthday_balloon

 

About "wolfs". I had one on D natural if i played it a little higher. Especially it appeared if i tuned A 443 instead 440. I had it mostly on A string, but when i tuned A 443 it appeared even on open D.. Now i use the wolf eliminator. Only on A string, but magically all of other "slightly high D wolfs" was gone.... However now it moved to E facepalm But it not so loud and annoying... So i'm still happy... Enigma...

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And now a REAL "wolf" who do not know what it sounds like.  Not a flute ?

 

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I saw that video some days ago I though the wolf really is named correctly, was not able to locate one yet on my violin but I did not explored too much that far on the fingerboard!

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It's not that common Noir. Very common for cellos but not so much for violins.

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I am a regular visitor to this forum and to Violinist.com.  When I read NV's post, I could not immediately reply and after some brain scratching, got it today.
http://www.violinist.com/blog/.....121/13103/ 

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