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Winter The Four Seasons
Problem in string crossing while playing notes CGCD CGCD CGCD CGCD followed by a C note.
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violony
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Should i move my ankle upwards when changing string for G note or does it have to do with the wrist. Are there any videos or exercise that'll help me in improving my notes when playing this particular section. It gets all random and i miss some notes like coming back straight to D instead of C. I can do it slowly but as i increase my pace it starts to make annoying notes in between. Anyone familiar with this piece who could help? I lack the consistency of playing CGCD same way four times.

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Which movement of the Four Seasons are you referring too?
I think you mean elbow rather than ankle. You would have an easier time if you brought your elbow under the violin or more to the right when on the G string for sure.

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umm i don't know exactly the movement but it's the one david garett plays 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ltQGDOCP9I
 
Moreover by G i meant the the 3rd note on the D string while C is 2nd note on A string and D 3rd on A string. Yeah i meant the elbow, as in should i practice moving my bow hand(elbow) in circles to change between D and A string so quickly? The part i refer to is played in the first 25 seconds of the the video.
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not to answer your questions.. Just commenting that I love that piece. Love that performance.  Thanks for Posting.

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So do I! You should definitely listen to him playing Summer presto four seasons. Spring Four seasons is very nice as well. It's amazing how you can understand what the composer is thinking while writing it down and the feeling, that's perfectly illustrative of the different seasons, is very light heartening.

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It's the "Winter" movement, and the first 25 seconds they are playing trills with the left hand fingers.
You put one down solid and the next finger goes up and down very rapidly. :)

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haha my topic does say Winter four seasons, umm i know about the left hand, i'm asking for string crosinng practice i.e bow exercses to change strings quickly. Moreover as far left hand is concerned when i raise my 2 finger their is an extra note that comes out of me getting my finger up! I guess i'll just have to keep practising:P But thanks for replying

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violony said
umm i don't know exactly the movement but it's the one david garett plays 

I knew I wasn't crazy. LOL

Should i practice moving my bow hand(elbow) in circles to change between D and A string so quickly? The part i refer to is played in the first 25 seconds of the the video.

Only if the part alternates between the strings evenly. If it is an uneven change such as the one you are referring to, it won't work with the hand rotation. I still can't find the spot you are referring to though in the first 0:25 seconds.

For example Perpetuum Mobile. It starts in 3rd position with the 1st finger repeatedly playing the D and the other notes on the A string. Perfect for the rolling, or up and down wrist movement.:
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Ah yes, that great aural illusion :)

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Thanks a lot fiddlerman, I'm sorry it comes after the trills and 4 quick note patterns. But i understand now thank you:)

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Violony, is it this, from bar #12 onward, that you mean?

http://burrito.whatbox.ca:1526.....__solo.pdf

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It's Mr Jim:) I can't seem to play it:( Can you?

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Thanks for replying:)

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@Worldfiddler I just love to look at that sheet music.  I want to make a quilt out of it.. it is so yummy to look upon.  😉

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@coolpinkone - you'd need to make 4 quilts - one for each season :)

 

It's Mr Jim:) I can't seem to play it:( Can you?

 

@violony - I don't find a problem with it.

You could simplify things a bit. Have a look here : I made up a little isolation exercise for you - it's exactly the same bowing, just starting on a open A instead of on C in 2nd position. See how you go with that :

http://worldfiddlemusic.com/gu.....ony-01.jpg

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Thanks a lot Jim, it does ameliorate my playing ! Can you do it using the lower end of the bow? I actually have problems with my bowing 

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