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Yehudi lessons 1 thru 6
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cdennyb
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Here's a link for those who might have issues with correct posture, holding the bow properly, maybe even holding the violin properly and just can't believe FM is correct, (usually because it hurts to twist your neck, squeeze with you shoulder and chin and try to keep the bow square with the strings! all at the same time.)

I found these really old lesson videos from the 50's of Yehudi (undeniably a master at the violin) and it's not only entertaining to watch but to see the students play as well. (Makes me jealous!)

Not trying to take anything away from Pierre but learning the violin is all about the same, just different teachers. I love FM's way of progressing us and just knew most of you would get a 'kick' out of this.

Here's a link to the first lesson, you can view the others once you get to the series on YouTube. 

 

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I came across these at the weekend. Great tutorials!!

(the poor children looked bored out of their skulls, just watching and not playing, but this, I believe is how students from a previous generation learnd. Slow and precise! My G/F's daughter wouldn't even let me touch the strings with my left hand for 2 weeks, as this is the way she was taught! just bowing, upanddown,upanddown,upanddown.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)

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yep, they look like they want to go outside and play, play anything but the violin and fall asleep listening to him... LOL

The rest of the lessons are pretty interesting and he goes into a lot more theory behind the why and why-not of certain things. Very classical and certainly something that should not be lost to time.

Can you picture those lessons being seen in say another 200 yrs? LOL

 

The section on bowing could take a person a month to go thru, so very technical, not just dragging the bow back and forth... his balance and energy speech is priceless.thumbs-up 

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February 29, 2012 - 4:03 pm
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Thanks for the post cdennyb. Like you said learning is the same. Any way we can learn is great. Not to be negative about this video, I got a kick out of watching too, but it's real hard to be patient enough to get through it. I really tried but I couldn't. Had to jump forward a lot. I love his playing but the video is way too slow for my taste. I can't believe he got up on his shoulders like that. smile

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no kidding FM, I had to have a couple of beers to watch all 6 lessons. LOL

You really can't be "up" on coffee and try to go thru it, certainly he could've moved a little faster but I guess the old days were a lot slower than the days are now.

I almost didn't post the link because obviously you have your own thing going here but this was so funny to watch and entertaining, I just had to drop it here. I know the beginners will find it amusing... if they can stay awake!roflol 

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cdennyb said

no kidding FM, I had to have a couple of beers to watch all 6 lessons. LOL

 

 I know the beginners will find it amusing... if they can stay awake!roflol 

I confess, I didn't last but about 5 minutes... and then I noticed how LONG the video was and just turned it off. Modern attention deficit, I guess. He seemed very earnest about wanting to teach those poor bored students, though.

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These are great.  Yeah, they are quite archaic by todays standards but I do like some of the emphasis he places on the importance of correct posture and most important, limbering up the body so that it is not stiff or rigid but movements flow in a fluid manner and the motion is loose and flowing. I think this is important and can never be overly emphasized. it reflects in my own playing. If I am tense, rigid, worried about something, the music comes out sounding tense,rigid, and very mechanical and not very pleasant.  The more I am relaxed and limber , the music comes out much more smooth, flowing and more pleasant sounding... although in my case still in need of much improvement. smile

 

A also love the way these were filmed, rather than taped  or digitally recorded.  They have that classic colour and sound deterioration, and appearance of old 16mm motion picture film that has been sitting around for decades.  Reminds me of the old ephemeral films we were often shown in school. Glad that someone had the sense to digitize these violin videos and archive them thus preserving them onward to the future.

 

Its also wonderful that people like Fiddlerman are making great tutorial videos nowadays to help people learn in the present and future. 

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Good luck to anyone trying to learn from Menuhin's videos (and book) because you are going to need it.  Holding up the neck of the violin by balancing it on the thumb is a tightwire act that requires a particular feature set of the hand.   For myself, a shoulder rest isn't a choice, there is simply no way around it without incurring a lot of extra difficulties.  There is a reason his instructional methods are obsure:  they either don't work or its trivial.

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You brought up a good point Composer. We are all built differently and what will work for one may not necessarily work for others.

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