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Cecilio CVA-600 FAIL
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Kevin M.
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Barry, I think we'll have to start to call you lucky.  When you pay 400 for a violin you expect better workmanship than that.  I think the CVN100 I got is better than that.

 

I had a little chuckle about the CVA instead of CVN.  CVA is Connecticut Valley Arms. They make black powder rifles.  Maybe the violin will work better if you fill it with black powder and blow it up.

 

Send it back and get your money back and get the concert master or the K550.

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I forgot you went over to the dark side. Are you my father?

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Wow Barry that instrument is disappointing on many levels. What a drag.

Good luck in getting a new model! You play well and deserve something much better for the money.

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Foooh! Dangerous viola! yell

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Barry said
 

@Naska....that protuding end pin could have been dangerous...lol

Or removed and used as a touch hole for a cannon fuse devil-violin

 

Sorry the re-enactor side of me decided to take over for a second :D

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Sorry to see this happened to you Barry! I suggest the k550 viola instead.

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well, I'm all for scouring the flea markets and thrift shops for no-name violins and violas that would be far better than that!facepalm

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Kevin M.
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The prblem with flea markets and thrift stores is what used to be $50.00 is now $500.00.  It seems that lately violins and anything even shaped like a violin have gone way up in price.  I have seen violins worth, in their current condition, $75.00 go for $250.00.

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Wow!!

Sorry for such an experience I just recently purchased one under the same brand but much cheaper it came with two bows a tuner etc,in a case that might be good to carry a Tommy gun in latter.

I'll post something latter this evening as I'm heading to Depauw university to have this thing looked over by someone who should know more about it than I do,I've noticed something about all this import stuff that seems to happen over and over again.

The manufactures will produce enough of what ever product their making to get a good name for themselves you'll read good reviews of them and then after about a year or so if that long then they start passing trash off and it just goes down hill from there,and anyone who tries to inform the public about it gets attached as a complainer,or told they don't know anything.

So from me to you thanks for posting it looks as if the same workmanship went into your $400.00 violin that went into my $80.00 violin package deal,and the finger board coloring or discoloring is pretty much the same its not ebony or I don't believe it to be.

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Well, not all ebony is pure black.  It frequently has lighter streaks or may be a bit lighter in colour overall, depending on soil conditions and other factors.  That is why most violin fingerboards and fittings are dyed, since people tend to assume that the pure black is the "real stuff".  There is only so much ebony in the world markets on any given year that is actually pure black and undyed.  It being pure black isn't a guarantee of quality either, since there can still be flaws in the grain and etc even on naturally black ebony.

However, none of that excuses the workmanship issues at the price level. 

Better luck with the next try, Barry. 

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Well, Dan, I have three violin's and none of my fingerboard's are dyed or stained. They are real ebony, I believe. Some really cheap violin's, you can see the grain of the wood and I think some are even painted rather than dyed. I remember one of the member's here removed all the paint/stain/dye, whatever it was and showed only the bare wood, which had a knot in it.

@ Barry,,, I was kinda thinking the CVA you bought may have been a returned piece and they thought they could pass it off on some unsuspecting newbie.. That certainly  was a poor example of workmanship. I 'm happy you sent it back. 

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That was me, Fiddlestix.  It was also actual paint.  Once the paint was scraped/sanded off, it was light wood and had a knot in it.  A knot won't necessarily make a bad sounding guitar fretboard, so I reckon it isn't necessarily bad in a fingerboard.  So long as it isn't loose and doesn't add any odd resonances or wolf tones or make notes near it dead.  Not optimal either, though.

And that was a Mendini MV-300.  Mendinis are also Cecilio products. 

Assorted issues of materials and workmanship were why I decided to try a different manufacturer than Cecilio when I went to buy another acoustic violin.

 

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