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ryonass
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My girlfriend bought me a FM CF bow for Christmas. When I opened it on X-mas day I figured out they’sent the wrong bow. They sent a viola bow instead. I called them the following day and they sent me the violin bow and a return label. Mistakes happen and I’m very happy they dealt with it correctly. I have a CF bow that came with my violin, the bow retails $110 and my grilfriend bought the FM bow for $56 on Black Friday. I was amazed both bows felt and played similarly. I am very happy with the bow. Only thing I would change is having more space between the frog and thumb grip. 

 

You can see the difference in the gap from the pictures. Old bow is the one with yellow tape. Overall I would recommend the FM bow and I would buy it again.

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The pictures didn't make it. Might want to edit your post and try again to add them.

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Thanks @Charles I couldn’t find the edit button so I added it below.

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I really like my new Fiddlerman CF bow. To be honest, I am too inexperienced to give more than faint praise: it produces a better tone than the bow that came with the rental, which seems to be fiberglass, with bow hairs of unidentified fiber content and poor rosin-holding ability.

BUT: my Fm CF bow does not look like this! (1) No dot: frog is plain both sides (except for recessed letters "Fiddlerman"). (2) No mother-of-pearl/imitation mop rectangle on down side of frog: metal wraps around, instead. (3) No white-and-grey wrap on stick: a grooved black plastic-looking wrap in this position.

Have they changed the specs?

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@Martha yes, they did change the design. I just looked at the website and your descriptions match what is on the site. I believe I saw @Fiddlerman mention an update a couple months back. 

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Yes, we did.
We spent money to make it better but some people are complaining. Some think that they appear to be cheaper. We removed the MOP for environmental protection issues/the Abalone Shell is becoming instinct. We changed the plastic tip to a metal one to make it more durable and used a different winding to look cool. The wire looking wrap with plastic on the outside was a cheap way of winding so we improved it but some people think the black wire looks cheap.
Long story short, we tried to improve it, spending more money, feel that it is a superior product but it didn't go over that well with everyone. :(
Looks like we will be going back to the original now.

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@Fiddlerman On the product page for the CF bow, I don't see any mention of it being more environmentally friendly, unless I missed it. People love environmentally friendly products. Point out why you removed on the product page, including the improvements, and I bet it'll help sway your customers :D  

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@Fiddlerman This is puzzler. The changes sound like, "this should look classier," or "this might look classier." I must admit that it does, in fact, look a bit cheap. Or at least, ambiguous.

But then it was inexpensive--and the thing I am impressed by is the fact that it VIBRATES. It vibrates while I play, I can feel what I'm playing in my right hand. And as I said in my review over in the store, the sound is ... somehow more three dimensional, if that makes any sense. 

Today I saw your video comparing two bows, same model, where you sort of bounce the wood side of a bow off your arm. Doing that, this bow not only vibrates but I can feel the frog end in my hand continue to "ring" for--count 'em--7 seconds. (Yes, it is very subtle toward the end--I had to damp the motion and compare to be sure what I was experiencing.) Now, I don't know if this length of ring is good or bad, for a bow. But the rented fiberglass bow, bounced off my arm, ... well, the tip sort of flexes a bit, but the frog end is just there, no vibration. Inert.

So, I'm a reasonably happy camper with respect to my new Fm CF bow!

Damfino's idea of being more explicit about environmental points--and I would add,  functional points--might be useful.

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Why do my attempts to write @ F i d d l e r m a n (without the spaces) show in my text correctly but autocorrect to @fiddlerguy ? While others' do not??

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@Martha - That seems to happen.   To get Fiddlerman's attention, use, without the spaces "@ a d m i n"  - and that will work just fine...

I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh - guntohead.JPG

Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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@admin See my post #8 (and snafu with auto-changing @s).

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Pierre, I personally would suggest keeping all of the changes except the winding. It needs to contrast more with the stick to look good.

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Fiddlerman
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Martha said
Why do my attempts to write @ F i d d l e r m a n (without the spaces) show in my text correctly but autocorrect to @fiddlerguy ? While others' do not??  

That happens. No idea why. In any case, I eventually see all the posts. At least I think I do. LOL

Glad that you like the bow.

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Martha, re the Fiddlerman vs admin stuff - what I've found works best is start with the @ sign, and type enough of the name that Fiddlerman shows up.  Select it, and it will change to @ admin.  Leave that alone, and when you save the post, it will change back to @ Fiddlerman.  (In all cases I've put a space between the @sign and the name to keep it from changing things around.)

Sometimes typing @ admin will get changed to @ Fiddlerman in the final results, other times (as in your post # 11), it doesn't.  Quirky software.

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I did a little science with bows tonight, ok, just weighed and measured balance points.

 

Fiddlerman Carbon weave CF bow weighed in at 62+ (scale was bouncing to 63 at times) grams and balance point of 10 3/4".  This bow was just purchased for myself to use with my Tower Strings Legend, I love Carbon weave , so had to go with this one....  Plus it helps differentiate it from my wifes plain CF bow.

Standard Fiddlerman CF bow weighed in at 60 grams and balance point of 10 7/8" from the end of the screw.  This bow came with my wife's Fiddlerman Artist Christmas 2016.

Brazil wood bow that came with Legend weighed 66 grams and balance point of 10 7/8".  This bow came with my Tower Strings Legend, I had previously tried and used the above bow with the Artist and felt it was enough better to do the upgrade to the CF now.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4800/40760879381_c8f241dac2_k.jpgImage EnlargerDSC_0020.jpg by Matthew Kogan, on Flickr

 

I LOVE the CARBON WEAVE!!!!!  Thanks @Fiddlerman for making these!!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4771/38950701360_ecd113d91b_k.jpgImage EnlargerDSC_0021.jpg by Matthew Kogan, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4776/40051233724_56ebf1be69_k.jpgImage EnlargerDSC_0022.jpg by Matthew Kogan, on Flickr

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Interesting. While many string players prefer bows a little heavier than average, 66 grams is outside almost everyone's preferred range for violin bows, and heavy enough to be acceptable as a viola bow.

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Thanks again Matthew.

Yes Andrew, that would work fine for the viola. :)

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