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TerryT
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thought I'd try another piece, Scarborough Fair.

Chosen so that I can join in with my sailing buddies when they start guitaring things.

 

Watched the video back (after concentrrating on left hand position and relaxation) and am now wondering why I play across my strings at 45degrees.

Must need to extend my elbow out and down abit to compensate.

 

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hahahaha,

did you see the cat (Frankie) trying to leg it out the window in the background?

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Thanks Terry

I enjoyed it.birthday_balloon I'll leave the critique to others, since my tin ear and i are not qualified!

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One thing that we don't talk much about is how you point the bow. If you point the bow tip foward as you are doing, then the bow will travel across as it is.

There are three basic elements to bowing straight. Your bow hold and pointing direction (fingers), your elbow motion, and shoulder movement which is the least of them all.

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when you get a piece memorized and dont need to read the sheet music, take a look down at the hair where it meets the strings. Listen to how the string responds at different locations. Picture that area between the fingerboard and bridge as a 4 lane freeway, fast lane at the bridge. 

Try to keep it in the middle of the road... LOL I've learned (from a good teacher FM) watching and listening that closer to the bridge doesn't allow the string the proper distance to vibrate and closer to the fingerboard allows too much distance and thus a muffled or softer sound. In the video, (watch it yourself again) you are in the "slow lane" with the G string and the "fast lane" with the E string. Understand?

Forget the music for a second and just play the strings, play scales or just random notes and notice the 'feel' of a properly and sufficient rosin coated bow as it glides across the strings. My violin sounds best when I'm slightly closer to the fingerboard but I try to keep all the strings playing in the 2 center lanes of that area.

I'm not trying to take FMs' place here teaching, hell, everyone knows I'm moving too fast as it is... LOL Just some observations of myself as I compare myself to you...and your playing. I also find if I'm more aggressive with my practice, and less timid at the bowing, (as if I don't care how loud the violin is) it turns out better. 

Did this help at all? coming from a fellow beginner it might make sense to you in that simple manner. It did for me when I was taught it.thumbs-up 

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Very nice Terry, I agree with cdennyb. once I memorize an piece and no longer need to look at the sheet music, I can focus on sound production and mechanics. I can't seem to read the music and work on those at the same time. Keep up the good work!

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Thanks all for this good advice.
I saw an exercise somewhere, where someone had use the inside of a toilet roll to keep their bow going at right angles to the strings .
I prefer to use a mirror myself!

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After a whole week of dodgy practice, I managed to hit the right notes in the right order on the right string today.

My lesson went so well last Saturday, we have completed the book that i was learning from, and my teacher thinks I'm ready to progress to 3rd position.

I just hope my mind isn't writing checks that my fingers can't pay, LOL

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Terry, your video is private. I can't view it. Or are you editing right now? Set your video to Unlisted (anyone with the link can view) 

If I use my FujiFilm camera, it records in MP4 so I don't have a video editing program to support MP4 on my computer. They only way I can edit my videos is on Youtube.  

Edit: Good job. clap What did you use to record. In some parts in the video it was echoing.  

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Terry, your video is private. I can't view it. Or are you editing right now? Set your video to Unlisted (anyone with the link can view) 

If I use my FujiFilm camera, it records in MP4 so I don't have a video editing program to support MP4 on my computer. They only way I can edit my videos is on Youtube.  

Edit: Good job. clap What did you use to record. In some parts in the video it was echoing.  

thanks for the advice DragonLady.

I have a nikon L110 (a digital camera really, not a camcorder) so the video quality is not so hot (gives me an excuse lol!)

Could I blag it and say the echo is Vibrato. No! didn't think so!thumbs-up

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Oh, I was thinking it was a laptop built web camera because I've have experienced echoing in the past. My Fujifilm Finepix Z  is a digital camera and works way better than my Sony camcorder. I never had a Nikon so I wouldn't really know how the quality is.   

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Nice! Improved the bowing definitely!

Good intonation!

.....and i liked those sudden effects =)

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Very well done Terry, beautiful! Your posture is great, and your bowing is near perfect! Gotta love Twinkle Twinkle Little Star! Great intonation, to me all the notes were right on! P.S. the sounds effects on some of the notes were pretty swaeet! 🙂thumbs-up

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Mad_Wed said
Nice! Improved the bowing definitely!

Good intonation!

.....and i liked those sudden effects =)

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Thanks Naska,

sudden effects? (you mean the little earthquake shaking the house and my camera sound? That is actually because my cat was running away lol)

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SirRyu said
Very well done Terry, beautiful! Your posture is great, and your bowing is near perfect! Gotta love Twinkle Twinkle Little Star! Great intonation, to me all the notes were right on! P.S. the sounds effects on some of the notes were pretty swaeet! 🙂thumbs-up

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Great job. I love the improvement on your bowing arm. Your intonation has improved a lot too.

Thanks for the post smile

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Fiddlerman said

Great job. I love the improvement on your bowing arm. Your intonation has improved a lot too.
Thanks for the post smile

Great! Thanks for the positive feedback, and thanks for the new vibrato tutorial.coffee

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Terry!  Thats pretty good!  Nice straight bows and good sound.

Like that bay window to!thumbs-up

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Late bloomer said

Terry!  Thats pretty good!  Nice straight bows and good sound.

Like that bay window to!thumbs-up

Hey! Thanks LB, it only takes loadsa practice and hard work! dazed

(the bay window makes a superb window seat in summer, and the other end of the room is glass doors out to the garden patio and fishpond so we sure make the most of our 4 days of summer, lol)

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Hey! Terry nice sound but I was consentrating on the cat I did notice that you sound like you are tired of playing Twinkle Twinkle.  dazed

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