FORUM

Please have a look at our Forum Rules. Lets keep this forum an enjoyable place to visit.

A A A
Avatar

Please consider registering
guest

sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —






— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_Related Related Topics sp_TopicIcon
Arran Boat Song
Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 (0 votes) 
Avatar
Fiddle4Fun
Honorary advisor
Members

Regulars
February 3, 2012 - 9:42 pm
Member Since: January 28, 2012
Forum Posts: 228
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Alrighty, so I was thinking it would be kind of fun to track the evolution of a single song as I learn and experiment with it.  I'll start with a baseline and every so often post an update where I will have (hopefully) improved.  At some point, I'll start adding in ornamentation and we'll see where the song ultimately ends up.

 

The A and B parts are usually repeated; however, I left them out this time around to cut the length by half.  I figured y'all would appreciate not walking away with bleeding ears. wink 

 

Feedback of all types, of course, is always welcome.

 

 

I know I rushed the B part a bit and I also think my D (on the A string) might have been a bit sharp.  That's been giving me some trouble recently.  Also, I know I'm not using the full bow or even holding it at the frog.  One, I don't want to hit the ceiling.  (I'll find a better spot to record next time.)  Two, it's about an inch longer than is comfortable for me. smile  (Alas, the bow I like is in rotten shape and it is doubtful that it would be worth the cost of the repair, provided it could be repaired which is also doubtful.)

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
February 3, 2012 - 11:11 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 11717

Nice intonation.
I would like to see you play it without looking at your fingers.
Also more dynamics. OK?

Thanks for the post smile

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
Fiddle4Fun
Honorary advisor
Members

Regulars
February 3, 2012 - 11:37 pm
Member Since: January 28, 2012
Forum Posts: 228
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hey, thanks. 

 

Thanks for pointing out that I look at my fingers.  The funny thing is that, if I am reading sheet music as I play, I can generally find the right note OK so it's not like I need to see where I am placing my fingers.  I think it's a confidence issue.  I'll work on it.

 

I'll also work on adding in some dynamics for version 2.0.  We'll see what happens.  It'll be fun.  smile

Avatar
Mad_Wed
Russia, Tatarstan rep. Kazan city
Members

Regulars
February 4, 2012 - 2:25 pm
Member Since: October 7, 2011
Forum Posts: 2849
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

That was very nice!!! birthday_balloon I liked those grace notes (i hope i've used right terminology duncecap)..

thumbs-up I'll wait for the next video with upgraded tune amuse 

That's very interesting, thank You =)

Avatar
Fiddle4Fun
Honorary advisor
Members

Regulars
February 4, 2012 - 10:06 pm
Member Since: January 28, 2012
Forum Posts: 228
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Don't look at me.  I have no idea what I'm doing. amuse

 

Out of curiosity, I went back to the orginal sheet music and that combination isn't in there.  It is supposed to follow the same pattern as the rest of the B part.  So I don't think they're grace notes so much as I altered the rhythm at that point for some reason that is now a mystery to me.  (Actually, looking more closely, it appears I made quite a few alterations while I was memorizing the piece.  Oops.)  As I said, I have no idea what I'm doing.  Maybe when I'm finished with whatever it is I'm doing now, I'll go back and try to actually play it according to the sheet music.  Maybe. wink

 

Thanks for the feedback.

 

Edit to add: Procrastination being far better than studying, I went digging through my old music notes.  Apparently, I couldn't find the sheet music for the variation I actually liked so I started with the sheet music for a different version and altered it by ear to match more closely to the one I heard and preferred.  Still don't know where the part you like came into it though.  It might have been an accident that I liked and so kept.

Avatar
Mad_Wed
Russia, Tatarstan rep. Kazan city
Members

Regulars
February 5, 2012 - 12:19 pm
Member Since: October 7, 2011
Forum Posts: 2849
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

LOL! You're funny! Whatever it was - it was nice !! amuse Even if You don't know what You're doing - still that goes like an appropriate improvisation =) birthday_balloon

Avatar
Fiddle4Fun
Honorary advisor
Members

Regulars
February 18, 2012 - 8:28 pm
Member Since: January 28, 2012
Forum Posts: 228
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I've finally gotten around to updating my baseline version of Arran Boat. (It's hard to do these recordings when your roommates never leave.  Thankfully I am away for the weekend and have a chance to play without the mute.)

 

Based on previous suggestions, I am attempting to look less at my left hand and to add dynamics.  These will be ongoing improvements.

 

I have also added a slide from B-flat to B.  (Still perfecting that one so it's pretty weak a couple of times.)

 

Feedback, of course, is always welcome.

 

Avatar
Oliver
NC
King
Regulars
February 18, 2012 - 8:38 pm
Member Since: February 28, 2011
Forum Posts: 2439
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

You did not constantly look at your fingers which means you will abandon that dependency easily.

Besides, that was a long piece to play from memory.  That's a good sign.

coffee2

I assume you did not have music in view or else you would not worry about looking at fingers.  smile

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Avatar
Fiddle4Fun
Honorary advisor
Members

Regulars
February 18, 2012 - 9:27 pm
Member Since: January 28, 2012
Forum Posts: 228
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hah!  Yes, I am working from memory.  If I use sheet music then I have to keep my eyes on it or I forget what I am doing and lose my place. Sometimes I get so lost that I end up playing something else entirely.  smile

Avatar
Oliver
NC
King
Regulars
February 18, 2012 - 9:37 pm
Member Since: February 28, 2011
Forum Posts: 2439
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Gee, I guess then that your plan includes how much you want to be a reader.   If you're a good reader there is a lot more music at your disposal. 

I also know about suddenly revising the music and playing something else.  Sometimes I think it's better than the printed music but that is not valuable if/you are playing with a group.

Why did you do the slide?

coffee2

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Avatar
Fiddle4Fun
Honorary advisor
Members

Regulars
February 18, 2012 - 9:57 pm
Member Since: January 28, 2012
Forum Posts: 228
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Slides are fun and my playing is all about having fun.   amuse  I also like the sound of the slide right there (at least, I do when I get it right).

 

I enjoy using sheet music to learn a new piece and then working from memory to see how it evolves based on my changing experience and memory.  I figure being comfortable with both sheet music and spontanaity will serve me well.

Avatar
Mad_Wed
Russia, Tatarstan rep. Kazan city
Members

Regulars
February 19, 2012 - 6:02 am
Member Since: October 7, 2011
Forum Posts: 2849
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
12sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Thanks for the video, Fiddle4Fun! =)

I lke your fingers - close to the strings! As for me the intonation is very well! 

Keep up the good work!thumbs-up

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
February 19, 2012 - 12:24 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 11717
13sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Great job,

I'd like to see you incorporate dynamics into that piece. Phrasing if you will. For example you start piano and grow to the A on the third measure, play louder for that measure and make a diminuendo on the next. Like telling a story. You can do this kind of phrasing throughout the whole piece.
Try playing your A to F# grace note with a slur so that they are in one bow.
When you play softer, move your bow much closer to the fingerboard.

Thanks for the post. I enjoyed it

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
Fiddle4Fun
Honorary advisor
Members

Regulars
February 23, 2012 - 7:59 am
Member Since: January 28, 2012
Forum Posts: 228
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
14sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Thanks, FM, I'll work on that. 

 

The dynamics are tricky.  I'm pretty sure my fiddle has only two settings-- loud and very loud.  (OK, OK, I'll quit blaming the instrument for what is clearly operator error.)  Great video tutorial on dynamics, by the way.

Forum Timezone: America/New_York

Most Users Ever Online: 231

Currently Online: Andy49
25 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today kit, wisco kid
Upcoming Mad_Wed, Andrew, Prudence, ButteryStuffs, makinnoise

Top Posters:

coolpinkone: 3767

Mad_Wed: 2849

Barry: 2661

Fiddlestix: 2637

Oliver: 2439

DanielB: 2379

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 1

Members: 3564

Moderators: 0

Admins: 2

Forum Stats:

Groups: 16

Forums: 56

Topics: 6448

Posts: 80418

Newest Members:

MACJR, bo, EKBanjo, charlieD, Folky fiddler, Morgenes42

Administrators: Fiddlerman: 11717, KindaScratchy: 1651