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Have You Made Summer Plans Yet?
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"Have you made your plans for summer yet?
 
Join legendary jazz violinist, Christian Howes, as he hosts the 10th Annual Creative Strings Workshop at Otterbein College in Columbus, Ohio, on July 1-6, 2013.
 
Learn from and perform alongside world-class teaching artists Billy Contreras, Jason Anick, Hamilton Hardin, Cedric Easton, Alex Hargreaves, and Greg Byers. This amazing learning opportunity will be an unforgettable and inspiring week of improvisational music filled with rehearsals, master classes, and concerts in jazz, fiddle styles, blues, rock, and more.
 
Youth and Adult programs are available.
 
Sound fun? It is! Learn more at http://christianhowes.com/educ.....-workshop/"
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You posted this twice,,, why ?   mistake ?

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No mistake @Fiddlestix . It's an advertisement. Look at the profile 

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I know it is an ad, I watched his original post, he's darn good though,ad or no ad.

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I don't care how good he is. He shoulden't be spamming the forum. Trying to make money out of  FM's hard work. Really bad form

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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Sorry, Ferret,, I won't post anymore.

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I don't think Ferret was speaking about anyone but the "Legendary" Jazz monkey dude. I agree with Ferrets assessment on this spammer and think his advertisements here (unless arranged through FM himself) are in horrible taste, lack professionalism and discredit any reasonable attempt to promote his "teaching" or violin for that matter. By calling yourself Legendary, you may as well be selling 3rd world, unmarked, discount drugs - or snake oil for all that ails you.  

 

Joy joy, sign me up for a pint or quart or whatever I can get until you bug out of town.

"I find your lack of Fiddle, disturbing" - Darth Vader

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I agree with you guys about the post, but at the same time, I do have respect for Christian Howes as a player and artist.

@ Christian - You are welcome to post your projects here but please don't just advertise your events, give us more. We would prefer that you participate in the discussions and give a little of yourself. You'll get it back in the end. In this community, you give a little and you get a lot back in return. If I let everyone post their ads here this forum wouldn't be very interesting.

Thanks for looking out for me guys :-)

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but the one who needs the least."

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My summer plans > if it ever comes > I have yet to see Spring > Sitting in my chair, playing my fiddle, soaking up some SUN and having a nice cold patriot missile. You ROCK Christian but what Master FM said > this is his house.

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I agree that this is FM's house, and we are his family (his online family anyway)!  I can feel the loyalty here, I've seen it before and I like it.

The most beautiful things in life cannot be touched or seen. They must be felt with the heart. ~Helen Keller~

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I can't believe how narrow minded people can be. Christian Howe's is offering an opportunity to improve "OUR" playing by offering a workshop and to play with and learn from some of the best in the business.

Personally, I don't see his post as being spam and as far as hurting Pierre, in my estimation he's doing good for the Fiddlersop. I think it could help boost beginner moral as well as promoting the "Fiddlershop", after all, Christian Howe's, is a spokes person for "D'Addario Inc. and demonstrate's 'in video's, playing tips for "US".

If the pro's use D'Addario string's and they are good enough for them, then by golly that's what I'm gonna use and I'm buying them from the "Fiddlershop" including all my other violin supplies, with the exception of a shoulder rest, I won't buy one unless I can try it first.

Some people come here and join the forum, they post once or twice, pumping as much information as they can get out of the loyal member's here, most never return. Then,,, they go and buy their violin's/viola's from some online distributor and when they get inferior product, they complain. They don't want to spend any amount of money to buy a decent instrument or even give Pierre the consideration of a phone call and let him demo., or recommend a violin or viola. They go out and buy (off the internet) a $ 15.00 bow, $ 10.00 string's and string them on a $ 60.00 violin rather than spending any money for quality.

 

So, that's my two cent's, like it or not.       hats_off

 

 

 

 

 

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Actually i don't like your 2 cents. I don't see how advertising Master level classes, a weeks worth of improv and a concert is to help a beginner who's whole repertoire of music consists of 5 to 10 basic songs, because that's really what they are. Lets all watch the Legendary player show off for an hour at "our" improv.

You have your opinion, and I have mine. Based on my skill level and my experience in marketing,  it is second rate advertising with ridiculously self acclaimed title perched on it. The "Pro's" can also play a real "Strat" with a bow that costs as much as my truck. I don't see any of us purchasing either of those in the near future.

Stop dropping your narrow minded crap. When someone doesn't agree with you, it isn't them that's narrow minded, it's you for not allowing them to think for themselves. If Mr. Legendary violinist is so popular, he shouldn't need to troll forums of beginner level players boasting of his greatness. People would flock to his side. If you are so drawn in by him, by all means go and enjoy your time, be it as narrow minded as you are you'll probably make someones time there miserable.

 

*** and such a professional posting.. no...SPAMMING it twice to different locations in case you couldn't get away from it the first time.

 

My "formal" education is in Physics. As Mr. (Sir) Isaac Newton scientifically proved, an action or force has an equal, but opposing action or force. I just met your accusational force with like kindness.

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I didn't personally perceive it as generosity on the original poster's part, since he's basically promoting an $800+ workshop event.  $1200+ with accommodations.  Presuming one doesn't want to sleep in their car, but maybe shops around a bit for lodging, let's call it an even $1000.  

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but personally I see this as spam.  Multiple posting of the same ad as he's posted in other communities.  He isn't giving/sharing anything here other than the opportunity to spend money on his event.

Now, since we're giving out 2 cents worth, here's mine.. If I suddenly had about $1000 free and clear that could all go to my becoming a better violin player, I'd call one of my old music teachers.  I'd see how many regularly scheduled private lessons $400 of it could get.  Probably a fair number, just at a guess.  Then I'd ask her to find me $500 worth of gear to improve on what I have now.  It could be any one of or a combination of a violin, bow, books or whatever, so long as it was what she felt would set me up the best as a beginner for those lessons.  That's $900 of it.  The last $100 would be the bonus paid for the work of doing a good job of finding me that gear. 

I could be wrong, but I'd bet that I'd get more benefit from that than from a workshop even with a self-acclaimed "legendary" player.  Now, a more advanced player might get enough out of the workshop that it could be a better deal.  But this was my 2 cents worth, and the more advanced players can speak for themselves. LOL

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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To be honest, I'm a little surprised   by what seems to be going on between Fiddlestix and Tyberius.  

 

Now, I'm not here for as long as you have, I'm sometimes not very insightful socially, but to me, it's kind of off-putting to read stuff like: "being narrow-minded", "go make others miserable" and 'your narrow minded crap'.

But maybe that's just me and I should keep my mouth shut... 

 

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Oh, I just made plans for the summer. My family and I are taking a 12 day jaunt from Oregon to South Dakota (via SUV). Seeings that this whole topic went sour, why not answer the initial question , " Have You Made Summer Plans Yet" ?

So, our ultimate goal is the Bad Lands and "visit" all the things we can take in along the way. I'll of course be bringing my violin. If someone on the Traveling Fiddle list is along the way, or if I can be the delivery person, lets work that out early. The dates for this journey are not written in concrete (yet), but it looks as though mid July will be our estimated vacation days.

The only State I've never been to after this would be Florida. I heard that once you hit The Dakotas, all you have to do is turn south and east for a bit and you can't miss it. What, maybe an hour or two at best I figure. ;) Lake Okeechobee here we come. It'll be like the Griswalds, I'm thinking.

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I'm not familiar with the west, would your journey take you anywhere near the Grand Canyon ?  The would be awsome to play into the canyon and listen to the sound.

 

              violin-1267

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Hi all-

Sorry for the slip-up in my posting here. I never intended to spam the forum and will be very careful in the future to observe proper etiquette!

 

Also, good tip on the blurb- does come off awkward to seem to be referring to myself as "legendary", I agree..! The blurb was actually written by someone on my staff. One mistake I guess was my not keeping a closer eye on what was happening.

What I can stand behind is this: My reputation as a teacher speaks for itself, and my summer workshop is a one of a kind opportunity that many have benefitted from in the ten years it's been running.  For absolute beginners, it's true that it may not be the right fit for everyone. 

 

I realize it's sort of an awkward way to become introduced, but anyway, here I am, and it's nice to meet you all!  Again, please accept my apology for the unintended transgression. No offense was intended, and

I'm available to help anyone in this forum anyway I can. Feel free to let me know if I can help in any way.

chris

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Chris, I appreciate your reply.  Someone in your position probably does have staff that creates a Bio and perhaps even sends messages on their behalf.  I'm not saying that is the case here.  But I believe that you meant no harm to Pierre.  You found out how very loyal the members are to him and that's because he is so very personable and helpful and works very hard to keep his business and this site going and yet still finds time to reply to all the individual questions and comments.  And you may or may not know that he even puts together videos of members playing which are remarkable for us.

 

It would be nice if you could join us in the forum and offer yourself as a team member and provide constructive criticism, as Pierre suggested.

 

The most beautiful things in life cannot be touched or seen. They must be felt with the heart. ~Helen Keller~

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That was nice Chris > Your an upstanding kind of guy. Your music ROCKS and I am looking forward to your input on this forum. I would really like a little input on how you work the loop pedals in some of your vids if you have time in the future. Once again, you could have just dropped off and said screw these fools on this forum but you came forth and acknowledge your true intentions.

YOU ROCK!!!  

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Hi Chris, pleased to meet you. 

Very understandable that promo copy written by your team is not how you'd usually speak of yourself.  But they're doing their job, catching attention and building an image.

Watched some of your videos on youtube.  Cool stuff, very well done.

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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