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(4 votes) Found out today that I have to learn this as part of a trio for july21st public performance
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the idea is we all 3 play the same thing but 2 bars apart.
Help/critique/critcism please, all comments taken in a positive context no matter what you say, lol
(also have Air on G string on my Youtube channel, but have uploaded it before to FM and once is enough. Again for same public performance so all help greatfully accepted)
Well done, Terry,,, you should have it down PAT by the 21st. Make sure you block out the other two violin's, all playing the same thing can get confusing. Also, take a look at your video,, your bow is drifting quite a bit. Looks like a little more flex in the wrist is what you need.
Good luck, you're doing great. ![]()
OfflineBarry said
bow is wandering but i think its a pressure issue, try applying a bit more bow pressure, i believe it will improve your tone as well
Thanks Barry, you're dead right, I need to expand my playing, I'm hoping playing in a big room for one will help me expand the sound to fill
Fiddlestix said
Well done, Terry,,, you should have it down PAT by the 21st. Make sure you block out the other two violin's, all playing the same thing can get confusing. Also, take a look at your video,, your bow is drifting quite a bit. Looks like a little more flex in the wrist is what you need.
Good luck, you're doing great.
Thanks Ken, as soon as I start concentrating on the notes, my bow wanders, when I know the notes, I can concentrate on bowing. Catch 22 methinks! Lol
OfflineTerryT said
Barry said
bow is wandering but i think its a pressure issue, try applying a bit more bow pressure, i believe it will improve your tone as well
Thanks Barry, you're dead right, I need to expand the sound, I'm hoping playing in a big room for one will help me expand my sound
By applying more pressure it also forces you to focus on your bowing. Ive recently discovered Im not pushing as hard as I should be well, I made a comparison video last night that I will post
Bach Rules !!!
OfflineKevin M. said
Your bow is all over because you are bowing from your shoulder. My teacher tells me that all the time and when I concentrate on bowing from my elbow it stays rock solid.
Spot on Kevin, I see when I bow from the shoulder coz my bow makes an arc. From
The elbow it's like an up and down piston.
I just wish I could remember to elbow it when I'm trying hard to play the right notes. Will I ever get it together?
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OfflineGood job, Terry. I was impressed with your vibrato at the beginning. I agree with the others that once you get your bow to stay straight, you'll have it nailed.
Also, once you get really familiar with the music, you'll feel more comfortable and everything will smooth out.
BTW, did someone take your picture at about 1:06? Thought I heard a click and saw a flash.
Good luck with the performance! Break a leg!



P.S. This piece might make a good group project in the future.
OfflineTerryT said
Kevin M. said
Your bow is all over because you are bowing from your shoulder. My teacher tells me that all the time and when I concentrate on bowing from my elbow it stays rock solid.
Spot on Kevin, I see when I bow from the shoulder coz my bow makes an arc. From
The elbow it's like an up and down piston.
I just wish I could remember to elbow it when I'm trying hard to play the right notes. Will I ever get it together?
Try this little trick. play against a wall with your upper arm against the wall after a time it becomes normal.
I have sheet music for this written for piano, guitar, flute trio. I usually play the flute part. I think you are gonna want to move your bow faster, hold the note for the same time but moving the bow slightly faster across the strings will improve tone. try it, if you like it keep it. If not, hey you tried. peace, Rob.
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TerryT said
Kevin M. said
Your bow is all over because you are bowing from your shoulder. My teacher tells me that all the time and when I concentrate on bowing from my elbow it stays rock solid.
Spot on Kevin, I see when I bow from the shoulder coz my bow makes an arc. From
The elbow it's like an up and down piston.
I just wish I could remember to elbow it when I'm trying hard to play the right notes. Will I ever get it together?
Try this little trick. play against a wall with your upper arm against the wall after a time it becomes normal.
Cheers Kevin, I'll work on that first thing tomorrow (23:15 here now, too late but I'm itching to try it )
OfflineLate bloomer said
Thats a pretty intense look on your face Terry, its amazing how much consentration this little hoppy takes!
Sometimes after pratice I have to take a nap!
Anyway sounding good, keep up !
if ever I feel I am getting too intense with this piece of music, I try and remember this rendition….
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OfflineIf that's the only song you are playing with the group on the 21st I would just suggest to find that song on Youtube or something with the same key and keep jamming along to it until you have your part memorized. Then you can keep peaking at your bowing and finger placements. You're doing great….
For one day I'd say, "Great job"
Of course you have some work ahead of you for the intonation and timing.
You slowed down when you got to the moving 16th notes, or 8th notes, not sure how your part is notated.
Practice a few times with a metronome, play with your own recording from time to time but 4 bars after of course.
Look forward to following your progress on this.
As important as intonation is, it's even more important when you play in an ensemble to match pitches. Take the time to fix intonation one note at a time now so that it is not an issue later.
When do you guys start rehearsing together?
Thanks Pierre,
Have found a few examples on YouTube. One good one with a flute and guitar. Have been driving Debbie nuts consistently playing it over and over.
There is a dotted 1/8 note just before the 1/16 notes, on some examples it's played as a trill.
There's a couple of notes where I'm moving over 2 strings even though I'm using 4th finger to practice my vibrato, I don't think shifting to 3rd position will save me haha!
Good point about a group rehearsal, my teacher hasn't mentioned that. But if all three of us are practicing with our Teacher it shouldn't be too difficult.
(I'm writing it but not really believing it! Practice together HAS to be better.
My teacher would also like to do our Pirate project, I said I'm sure you wouldn't mind, but I'd ask first.
It'll mean more publicity across the pond. Everyone here loves it!
If anyone else wants to do Canon and record it, We could use it as a play along duet or triplet, I'll photo the score and post it
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