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Sept 2012 fiddle progress record
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Barry!  That was so freakin great!!!!  Man you own your intonation.

Seriously, every one of those songs are songs that I need to learn.  Whenever I see people at fiddle events/gatherings jamming, THESE are the steadfast songs that everyone just assumes you know.  I have been dying to learn "Devil's Dream" since two weeks after I started learning violin.

Incredible job!cheers

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Real nice!  The music is great but perhaps the best achievement is added confidence!

I like your sense of rhythm, an important talent for a fiddler.

Genuine Question ......... why do you favor playing the bow towards the tip ?   I'm not complaining, only curious ?

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Really great stuff, Barry.  I was wondering, do you call dance's ?

 

dancingdancingserenadedancingbunny_pole_dancerviolin-student

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very cool! I am right behind  you...I dont have most of mine memorized yet. Devils dream is so much fun to play.  I am still struggling to get a grip on the double stops that move, not the drones but the ones that take two fingers on two different strings. keep on keepin on, maybe one day we will meet up.jimi-hendrix

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I M P R E S S I V E and thank you!

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 You play great, Barry! I'm incompetent in tracking your progress, You are somewhere, where i just dream to be.. Only one question: You use mostly the upper third of the bow. Did You try to play somewhere in the middle? I thought it could be helpful for wrist flexibility. Or it ain't needed?dunnoduncecap

And thanks for remind! I've learned "Whiskey before breakfast" !!! Love that tune! And the "Red wing". Haven't play them for a while. Tomorrow. Fiddling Wednesday!

YooooHoooo!

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Barry said

Mad_Wed said
 You play great, Barry! I'm incompetent in tracking your progress, You are somewhere, where i just dream to be.. Only one question: You use mostly the upper third of the bow. Did You try to play somewhere in the middle? I thought it could be helpful for wrist flexibility. Or it ain't needed?dunnoduncecap

And thanks for remind! I've learned "Whiskey before breakfast" !!! Love that tune! And the "Red wing". Haven't play them for a while. Tomorrow. Fiddling Wednesday!

YooooHoooo!

Always questions about my bowing and bow hold  here. Ive been at the fiddle hangout for my entire 4 years and never have been asked about my bow hold or fiddle hold. I guess thats the difference between a fiddle site and a violin site. A fiddler plays and holds it as they see fit, violinists follow a far more rigid "we must all be alike" format.

Ok. Just example of what i am talking about. (Someone posted it before):

 

 Don't You like her right hand freedom?

or Bruce MacGregor's?

 

And Barry, fiddlerman.com is different from ANY site fiddle/violin...We are here to help each other, i think, and not for rowing. Whatever i suggest, You'll go your path one way or another. And it could be helpful at least in your Classical Journey... If You are closed for my suggestions, You don't even need to say something like that above. If You feel good with your bow grip and can achieve with it any desirable sound, then it's great. 

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..."we must all be alike" format

who said that?  This forum members? There are no 2 alike violin/fiddle players. There are common criterias that help player to improve faster... Why i should invent the bike, if it was already invented? And one principle - get comfortable with maximum abilities! Under that principle i would be happy to be alike

I apologise if i offended You somehow! To prevent same situation in future i won't comment your posts. I don't wanna fight or be/seem impolite.

Thank You kindly.

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Barry said
Classical journey is over, probally was over when it started....

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Sorry, but almost every time I post a video instead of it being about the music  some one has to pick apart my bow hold, its got old.

There was about music too. But seems You pay attention only for bow hold parts of comments.

Tired of explaining it, just wont post anymore videos here

No explanation was required. 

Your videos - your posts - your choice! 

If You don't want to help anybody with your videos - that's your decision again.

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you've been playing for over 4 yrs now, incredible improvement from the rest of us here. Of course we are all still "beginners" compared to you or anyone else that';s able to play that many tunes from memory.

Perhaps you've outgrown this site {since it is a 'beginner site'}, perhaps you need to look at the rest of us like a teacher and not so much as a student. When we ask about your style, maybe try to see it as an opportunity to teach us not be offended by us.

just sayin'cheers

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I don't know, Barry.  I think I have seen every one of the vids you've put up, some of them definitely more than once.  But at barely 5 months I don't usually figure I have much to say that you can use.  Sure, I like listening to you play, but I think that's probably true of most folks and you'd already know that.

With the bow, well you sound good and seem to know what you're doing, so I always just figured you have your reasons.   Might be how it handles or it might be a tone thing, but I always figured it was intentional and for good reasons.  The bottom line is it sounds good.  Something I say sometimes about music is that one of the great things about music is that there are so many ways to do it right.  10 different players may not do things exactly the same, but they can all come out sounding good and the song feeling great, and that is as "right" as anyone can ever want.

 I can tell you that when I saw your 5 month video, my main thought was something like "Well, whatever I may be right now, 'fiddler' ain't it, because I don't believe I can do that.."  LOL 

Well anyway, to keep what could be a long post to a reasonable length, I just chimed in to say that I like listening to your playing and that you are an encouragement and an inspiration.  There are a fair number of people here who are that, but you are definitely one of them.

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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Barry said

Always questions about my bowing and bow hold  here. I've been at the fiddle hangout for my entire 4 years and never have been asked about my bow hold or fiddle hold. I guess that's the difference between a fiddle site and a violin site. A fiddler plays and holds it as they see fit, violinists follow a far more rigid "we must all be alike" format.

The questions are not a criticism, Barry! We are all learning, many of us from different sources and we hear so much about a "proper" bow hold, but the fact is that you sound amazing just the way you are and we all want a piece of that laugh It may seem very natural to you after a few years, but speaking for myself only here, the Bow Hold is still a bit of a mystery and any clues I can pick up are very valuable to my learning. It's only by questioning that we can get a handle on what you're doing right...And then try to copy you amuse

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It's all just about the style of music you play and the stage that you play on. There is lots of ways to hold the bow. With Celtic and many other styles of music many choke up on the bow to get those quick notes in and you need to do it on the spot because you are playing for an audience to entertain. Classical music is a wonderful thing..... and Barry has posted here before that sheet music and proper holds are just road maps to help you learn your own style. If you're in an orchestra and playing you can sit in a chair and have the sheet music stand right in front of you during a performance but sometimes that's not even an option when you want to play for an audience. Ya got to get up and create a visual performance to entertain the crowd and memorize the song the best you can or just improvise on the spot cause there is no sheet music stand in front of you....     I don't even know If I made any sense to anyone right now cause I just typed so fast.

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I'm always sure to get one of those monstrous black stands in front of me so nobody knows what I'm doing wrong BUT I got the amp shoved up a couple feet forward so it's easy to hear spike-1268

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This is a learning site as well as a chit chat site.

From time to time members ask for criticism and that might be the safest way to give it out.

Perhaps a note when posting videos about wanting or not wanting criticism would be helpful for everyone.

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well, I am shocked at all you inconsiderate newbs who have failed to see what an amazing job Barry is doing and all that he has accomplished. Chat ettiquete requires that you ask if you can post a question pertaining to secret skills that arent voluntarily explained, unbelieveable.

@Barry- I am with you, these newbs obviously dont know enough about fiddle to appreciate that its about the music, rythym, aura created when playin real good. Mighty fine, mighty fine....real good.

We need to create our own site called Barry n Robs- the FM2 experiment. Itd be an experienced fiddlers site where people dont try to learn somethin or figure things out. Itl be all about the music, and if you cant keep up....thats your problem! Lets do this.thumbs-up

 

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Any of you newbs need questions answered ask FM (or me, dont tell Barry) from now on! gheez.

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The way Barry hold's his bow is the hold he is comfortable with. Don't forget, Barry live's in Nashville, TN., that's stompin fiddlin country. I dig it myself.

@pfish..... you say you're shocked at all the inconciderate newb's. I trust you are including yourself in that category of newb's. There is only one person who made any comment about Barry's bow hold, and I don't concider her a true newb. Her comment about Barry's hold was out of curiosity, the need for learing different style's, not to critisize him.

 

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Fiddlestix said
The way Barry hold's his bow is the hold he is comfortable with. Don't forget, Barry live's in Nashville, TN., that's stompin fiddlin country. I dig it myself.

@pfish..... you say you're shocked at all the inconciderate newb's. I trust you are including yourself in that category of newb's. There is only one person who made any comment about Barry's bow hold, and I don't concider her a true newb. Her comment about Barry's hold was out of curiosity, the need for learing different style's, not to critisize him.

 

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I thought Barry lived in Fl, my bad.

@Fiddlestix - sarcastic ironic satire is what I was conveying. Im shocked you didnt realize that.1st-place

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Barry, you're not getting any critisizm from me, in fact, I hold my bow like that frequently. Give's more control that way.

I know, i've seen it brought up before. I wouldn't pay much attention to it though.

       dancing

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My audiences never complain about my bow hold.  Instead they can get picky if I can't carry a tune in a bucket.  Hell, they got in for free party

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@Barry,,, LOL,, frog first ?    Actually I turned my bow around this moring after reading all the comment's. I was holding it by the tip end,, wow, you talk about bow bounce and for some reason, the thing sounded like chicken's scratchin on a tin roof.

Was horrible sounding.   rofldazed

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