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Some times I tend to neglect the bowing hand , but I truly believe its the real music maker! devil-violin

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that's pretty damn good... I feel 'bluegrass' tunes in the near future will be a favorite of yours.

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Awesome... !  Yahoo! 

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Man what a nice sound. Get down.dancingdancingdancingdancingdancingdancingdancingdancingdazeddazedbananabananabananabananabananabananabananabanana

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The Shuffle Bowing suits you 🙂

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Ok...that was really cool, but what is shuffle bowing.  dunno  Noob here, so I get to ask obvious questions.  Kind of like the old saying, "I may not know art, but I know what I like."  gold_stargold_stargold_stargold_stargold_star

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Don't feel bad gkeese, I didn't know what it was either until Kevin named it. It's one eighth note followed by two sixteenth notes played over and over.
One and-a, Two and-a, Three and-a, Four and-a
The bowing should alternate on the beat. Down bow on ONE - Up bow on TWO and so on. Just the way it comes.
The two proceeding notes after the beat (and-a) are twice as fast as the first one of the three.
Listen to Erich again after reading this and I think you will understand.....

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I think my instructor taught. Only he taught me using a funny but effective method. To me it's the hamburger/cheeseburger method lol. Ham=first 8th note and thus is said the longest followed by -burg, and then -er which are faster 16th notes. Then -cheese, followed by -burg and -er. This method allows me to play quickly and know that -ham is played on the down bow and -cheese always on the up bow. So I'm saying ham-burg-er cheese-burg-er to myself as I'm playing 6 notes very quickly. He taught me this method with a lot of droning and other stuff going on. I love it!

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yep, I rememmber.

dont know who started it though. I think its been around for a long time.serenade

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I ment to say    A loooooooong time!hats_off

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well, since i seem to struggle with a fast "nashville" or "georgia" shuffle.  mine sounds more like the indiana shuffle. 

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Nice job Erich!  Sounds very natural.

I love using the shuffle (didn't know there were variations as Barry had mentioned) when I can, but I don't yet know on what songs and/or passages in songs is it appropriate to use.  I can tell if it sounds right and if it doesn't, but it took me a while to get the technique [reasonably] down and I'd like to use it.

The other thing I noticed when I use a shuffle, and I see it in your vid as well, is that when using the shuffle technique, my wrist becomes less fluid.  I don't know if that's just part of the technique, or if I'm just not as good at it as I need to be; do you know,,, or Barry, you use the technique very well, is a stiffer wrist correct?

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No, I am striving for a loose wrist for proper effect.

Just that I have a little problem due to a loose wrist does not come naturally to me. 

But wrist and finger joint   movement is important in any bowing technique.

I do try to loosen up before I start and there are flexability exercises you can do.hats_off

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Nice shuffle! working on it also! =)

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Fiddlerman said
Don't feel bad gkeese, I didn't know what it was either until Kevin named it. It's one eighth note followed by two sixteenth notes played over and over.
One and-a, Two and-a, Three and-a, Four and-a
The bowing should alternate on the beat. Down bow on ONE - Up bow on TWO and so on. Just the way it comes.
The two proceeding notes after the beat (and-a) are twice as fast as the first one of the three.
Listen to Erich again after reading this and I think you will understand.....

 

It is funny.  I read your post and thought. "FM is talking to me like I have any idea what he just said.  But once again, I listened to you, rewatched the vid...and suddenly, you were speaking English to me again, lol.  Now I admit, your post made a lot more sense when you spelled it out for me.  Thanks.  hats_off

 

and @ Kevin- great neame and wonderful performance.  Now I can have even more respect for it, lol.thumbs-up

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LB how long have you been practicing the shuffle. BTW I understand that there are several types of shuffles.

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Off and on for a week or two. The concept is not complecated whats hard is training your arm to do it for any length of time . Just start slow and build up speed.

You can learn it on a single string first then try double stops.

 

I still have a lot of work to do with it.

Probably ask Barry about other types. Im taking them one at a time.cheers 

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There are different types of shuffles depending on the style of music or particular sound you are looking for. There are also different types of bowing styles for the same reasons. The key is to practice it until it becomes automatic and you dont have to think about what you are doing. I devote about 5 min of my practice time to this since I am focusing on other things right now, but by the time Im ready for some cajun music I should have it on auto pilot. yeehaw.

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