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Twinkle Stinkle - what gives?
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you can play on any two strings that are next to each other. you did fine.

as promised, here is mine all A and E.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....gIUCemN-mk

"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.

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Chris, I would suggest you print this out http://fiddlerman.com/wp-conte.....%80%9D.pdf It is fiddlerman's sheet music for Twinkle. Then print this out http://fiddlerman.com/wp-conte....._chart.pdf This is the fingering chart.  The way you are trying to play this, you are going into fith position but don't worry about that now. Check these two things out and I'm sure you'll get it.

 

For the bowing, try to keep your shoulder steady and bow from your elbow. This will help to keep the bow perpendicular to the strings.

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D0  D0  A0  A0  A1  A1  A0-  D3  D3  D2  D2  D1  D1  D0-

 

D4  D4  D3  D3  D2  D2  D1- D4  D4  D3  D3  D2  D2  D1-

 

D0  D0  A0  A0  A1  A1  A0-  D3  D3  D2  D2  D1  D1  D0-

 

D0  D0  A0  A0  A1  A1  A0-  D3  D3  D2  D2  D1  D1  D0-

 

D4  D4  D3  D3  D2  D2  D1-  D4  D4  D3  D3  D2  D2  D1-

 

D0  D0  A0  A0  A1  A1  A0-  D3  D3  D2  D2  D1  D1  D0- 

 

The letter is the string and the number is the finger. A note with a "-" means to play it for 2 beats or twice as long as the other notes.  This is in the key of D major so your 2nd and third finger will be right next to each other.

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Chris: Keep up the good work! Also, where did you get that stripy thing for the neck? It looks totally rad!

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you are doin' great! very awesome! i know how you love to play, and i can feel that you do, your progress is great!

note: don't ever compare yer playing to a little girl or any other violinist...every violinist has their talent, we all have different sounds, and i can hear that yours is awesome!

 

awesome hat btw :)

cheers! - ⁰ℨ

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ozmous said

awesome hat btw :)

Yes! So awesome! Quickly done too, just a month after you became CircleTilde of the Violin. smile

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PF, thanks for the information.  Your video was great too!

 

Kevin, as I said in the chatroom, I don't know sheet music just yet, but thanks for the tabbed version!  I'll go off of that for now and see if I can make it sound better for me.

 

Almandin, I got a couple of them from Amazon.com.  At the time they were $1.50 US but they've gone up a little in price.  Strings N' Things.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer.....dition=new

 

Oz,  I don't remember comparing myself to a little girl.  I'm not that great. LOL. J/k!  I know I may sound hard on myself in my videos, but that's just me talking.  I call it like I see it.  It doesn't hurt my feelings to know that I'm not good, because I'm happy that I am getting better.  One day I suck, the next day I'm not so suckish.  Sooner or later, I'll be the best I've ever been.  Or something. LOL

 

thanks for the comments folks!

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CircleTilde said
Almandin, I got a couple of them from Amazon.com.  At the time they were $1.50 US but they've gone up a little in price.  Strings N' Things.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer.....dition=new

Aha! I've seen a those before, here:

CircleTilde said

It doesn't hurt my feelings to know that I'm not good, because I'm happy that I am getting better.  One day I suck, the next day I'm not so suckish.  Sooner or later, I'll be the best I've ever been.  Or something. LOL

You've just summed up the geist of a beginner violinist, right there! coffee

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Good work, O~!

Very useful tips above about notes and bowing. I like the sound that You produce, but try to keep the bow on strings for now and don't lift it without necessity. So You can get the smoother sound without hard starting and ending.

And that was not "horrible", definitelly.!.

Keep up! thumbs-up

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First I would focus on intonation--that means being able to play the correct pitch.

0) Play Fiddlerman's intonation game: http://fiddlerman.com/fiddle-l.....g-tools/  Go no farther until you are scoring at least 12000 out of 15000 at beginner's level.

1) Get a chromatic tuner if you don't have one:  http://fiddlershop.com/accesso.....ric-tuners seems to has some good ones.  It will be able to tell you the pitch of any note you play.  Make sure you know how to use it.

2) Learn how to tune your fiddle.  Plenty of stuff online showing/telling how to do that. Make sure your fiddle is tuned whenever you play.  Have an experienced player or teacher check your tuning and that you are using the tuner correctly.

3) Make sure your tapes are placed properly: play notes into the tuner and be sure they are close to the pitch that they are supposed to have.  Then you will start to know what the pitches should sound like and where your fingers should be going.  Don't plan to keep the tapes forever.

4) Play!  Scales, Twinkle, anything, including whatever your teacher assigns.

5) Get feedback on your playing.  That could be from some teacher or competent musician who will tell you the truth.  I find that my tuner is always truthful ...  If your teacher contradicts your tuner, find a different teacher.

6) Learn some basic terminology: semitone, octave, major second, perfect fourth, perfect fifth, etc.

7) Have fun playing your fiddle.

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Nice going Chris :)

It really reminds me of the first time I picked the violin lol ... at first even the easiest seems like the hardest Chris. When I started playing that song, I had entonation problems, bowing problems. I had the lot LOL. But I got stubborn and said "this is not gonna beat me", so every day I tried to make twinkle twinkle sound better when I played it. That's what you have to do.

 

Here are some tips.

1) Try to play twinkle twinkle standing up. You may find it more comfortable.

2) Since this song is in D major, it means that your second and third finger will be pushed together on the fingerboard because from the note F (played with 2nd finger) to the note G (played with third finger) there is just a half step. So before playing the whole song, it's always helpful to play the scale it is in. So you may play D major scale starting on the D string: D    E     FG     A. Then you go to the A string: A    B     CD     E. When the scale sounds right to your ear, then work on the song.

3) When bowing, imagine that your elbow has a life of its own and your arm is completely relaxed. If you bow using your arm along with elbow, you will get an arch so that will cause your bow to go crooked. Try playing in front of a mirror.

I hope this helps Chris, I have faith in you ... you can do it bud ;)

Keep it up!

 

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RosinedUp said
First I would focus on intonation--that means being able to play the correct pitch.

0) Play Fiddlerman's intonation game: http://fiddlerman.com/fiddle-l.....g-tools/  Go no farther until you are scoring at least 12000 out of 15000 at beginner's level.

1) Get a chromatic tuner if you don't have one:  http://fiddlershop.com/accesso.....ric-tuners seems to has some good ones.  It will be able to tell you the pitch of any note you play.  Make sure you know how to use it.

2) Learn how to tune your fiddle.  Plenty of stuff online showing/telling how to do that. Make sure your fiddle is tuned whenever you play.  Have an experienced player or teacher check your tuning and that you are using the tuner correctly.

3) Make sure your tapes are placed properly: play notes into the tuner and be sure they are close to the pitch that they are supposed to have.  Then you will start to know what the pitches should sound like and where your fingers should be going.  Don't plan to keep the tapes forever.

4) Play!  Scales, Twinkle, anything, including whatever your teacher assigns.

5) Get feedback on your playing.  That could be from some teacher or competent musician who will tell you the truth.  I find that my tuner is always truthful ...  If your teacher contradicts your tuner, find a different teacher.

6) Learn some basic terminology: semitone, octave, major second, perfect fourth, perfect fifth, etc.

7) Have fun playing your fiddle.

JuanFiddler said
Nice going Chris :)

It really reminds me of the first time I picked the violin lol ... at first even the easiest seems like the hardest Chris. When I started playing that song, I had entonation problems, bowing problems. I had the lot LOL. But I got stubborn and said "this is not gonna beat me", so every day I tried to make twinkle twinkle sound better when I played it. That's what you have to do.

 

Here are some tips.

1) Try to play twinkle twinkle standing up. You may find it more comfortable.

2) Since this song is in D major, it means that your second and third finger will be pushed together on the fingerboard because from the note F (played with 2nd finger) to the note G (played with third finger) there is just a half step. So before playing the whole song, it's always helpful to play the scale it is in. So you may play D major scale starting on the D string: D    E     FG     A. Then you go to the A string: A    B     CD     E. When the scale sounds right to your ear, then work on the song.

3) When bowing, imagine that your elbow has a life of its own and your arm is completely relaxed. If you bow using your arm along with elbow, you will get an arch so that will cause your bow to go crooked. Try playing in front of a mirror.

I hope this helps Chris, I have faith in you ... you can do it bud ;)

Keep it up!

 

JuanFiddler.

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Hi CircleTilde! Welcome to the forum.  Good attempt.  With more practice, you will come clean.  Good luck.thumbs-up

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JuanFiddler said

So before playing the whole song, it's always helpful to play the scale it is in. So you may play D major scale starting on the D string: D    E     FG     A. Then you go to the A string: A    B     CD     E. When the scale sounds right to your ear, then work on the song.

 

Somebody needs to tell CircleTilde to be sure to include the sharps and that the notes of the D major scale are: D  E  F#  G  A  B  C#  D.

That's good advice to play the scale first.  Also good advice to stand up when playing, at least until you are sure whether it makes a difference.  I bet it will.

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Hi Chris thanks for the  progress update.   I think you are figuring your way around the violin well.

Do you know that Fiddlerman has a tutorial on this for those that have hardly ever picked up the violin..?  And do  you know that when you have learned it, there is a video that you can jam with  him ?  It is so fun.  It was my  goal when I came to this site and I had a ball with it.

 

Keep up the good work.

 

Nice Video PF!

 

Great advice everyone.

 

You all are so helpful and I love that!!!

 

Cheers,

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