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Violin progress at 5 months
Playing over a guitar
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syke_sun
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June 28, 2015 - 6:36 pm
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Hi guys! Im Syke. I would like to share my violin progress at 5 months. I played Forevermore by Side A. This is a very romantic song. Im really hoping i give justice to the song. I played the song by ear.

I played over my pre recorded guitar accompaniment. I added reverb on the violin track. I dont know if it made it or break it. I would like to know your thoughts.

Just hearing myself playing over an accompaniment makes me wanna burst with satisfaction. There is a lot to work on but i can feel that im progressing every single day.

Have a nice day!

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Very nice, @syke_sun ! That sounded lovely with the guitar accompaniment. And, I know what you mean about feeling satisfaction when your playing on different instruments comes together like that.

When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,

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That sounded great, very nice progress at 5 mos. I love your vibrato too.

Nice job, syke  clapclap

 

Ken.

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Very nice performance!

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 I just read all the comments. Thank you very much for the warm responses. Im so motivated to practice more

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Skye,

Well played, enjoyed that.

 

Mark

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Good playing, syke sun!   You are doing very well, especially for 5 months!

I don't think the reverb either made or broke it.  I think it sounded nice with the reverb, though.   

A thought on the reverb for you, though.  Reverb tends to make an instrument sound more distant.  So having reverb on the violin and not the guitar makes the guitar seem closer to the listener with the violin a distance away.  I personally would have probably used a little reverb on the guitar as well, so boith instruments feel like they are at about the same distance from the listener and "in the same room".

But the way you did it sounded good, and I think it maybe gave the violin a little more of a "dream" quality than the guitar, which may be just what you intended.

It was good recording and playing.  Very pleasant to listen to! 

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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June 29, 2015 - 10:17 am
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Great job Syke,

Keep up the great work.

You get a badge. 🙂

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but the one who needs the least."

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@DanielB thanks for the input! Now im really learning something about reverb. I used Audacity to add reverb. It doesnt have a "knob" to increase or decrease. So i just put a preset. I think i need to tweak the parameters to add little reverb on guitar. I felt I was playing in a hall after hearing the recording and it fulfilled my dream playing in one.. Thanks a lot!

@Fiddlerman thanks for the badge I really appreciate it!

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You deserved it. 🙂

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5 months huh? WELL DAMN... I'm jealous now...facepalm

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Really nice job.  Keep it up. 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

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@syke_sun: Yes, things like reverb are good for that.  Most of us do not get to practice in a big hall or auditorium, and the acoustics of such places help the sound of the instrument.  When we watch videos of professional players, they are usually in places with much better acoustics than the rooms of our houses or reverb and other effects have been added by a professional sound engineer.

Of course that is not all of what makes them sound better than us, but it is a part of it.  So adding a little reverb can help us to actually hear how we sound sompared to the professionals, and so it can be a learning tool and often a bit of encouragement.

Most of the presets for Audacity will have a control named "mix" or "wet/dry".  Adjusting that will adjust the amount of reverb sound and the amount of plain sound.  As I recall, most of the presets in Audacity start at about 25% on that control, which is enough reverb that it is very easy to hear that an effect is being used.  If you use a bit less, like 12% or even a little less, then the listener's attention will not focus so much on the effect, but on your playing.  It makes it less obvious to the ear.

 

If you have been using Audacity enough to try something a little more advanced, I can explain a trick you may like.  

Highlight the track of the instrument you recorded that you want to try some reverb on. 

Then use "edit/duplicate"

That will give you a copy of the original track.  Then you use reverb on the copy instead of the original, and set the reverb's "mix" or "wet/dry" to 100%.

Now you can play back both tracks and adjust the volume of the new track (which will be all reverb) to get the sound exactly to your taste, instead of trying to guess how much wet/dry to use on the preset. 

That is a little more "professional", since it will give better control over the sound.  It also leaves the original track unaltered, which makes it easier to go back to what you started from if some effect you try makes a change you decide later that you didn't like.

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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Like a lot of  people have already said, your vibrato is great. I would like to hear smoother transition between bow strokes; because until a violinist/fiddler can make smooth transitions the music will sound novice/amateur. I'm not saying it sounds bad, I think your musicality is great, but I am talking about technical skills. Your vibrato is more full than mine, but the bowing can be more fluid. Great progress for five months.

P.S. I've been using audacity to reverb my music as well! And i've been playing for eight months.

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WOW, I am only 3 days in and listening to you play just made my day. I pray that I'm able to play like you in 5 months time. AWESOME! 

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Awesome job! Loved both the violin and guitar. 

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