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A quick take of "Shady Grove" on electric violin
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"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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I like it! Good job. No fancy effects heard, sounded good to me.

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Great job, Daniel.

I love it, the playing and the beautiful effect.

Nice, warm, deep and with little reverb.

May have to ask you some day to share the secret "recipe" to that amazing violin sound.

Very well done, Daniel.

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Dan... That was coooool.... Speedy too!  

Nice playing....you have so many ways to make music well.

Awesome!

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Thanks folks, you are too kind.

 

@ratvn: Turn down the volume on the electric violin all the way, then creep it up just to where it won't distort at all unless you bow a very strong note or a doublestop.  Then set your tube preamp to like we discussed for the mic, to where the preamp gets to "work" just a little on medium loud notes.

If you have a compressor/limiter, set it like you would for a singer.  If not, then use the OPL switch on your tube pre-amp.  That's to keep any loud peaks from ruining the track you're trying to record, but won't make it sound "squished".

Then turn your tone or eq down, and bring it up until you have just enough "sting" on the high strings for it to not sound too muddy.  

All that should give you a sound that has a fair amount of midrange "meat" with enough high end for the articulation to sound ok, and the sound should stay clean unless you *really* push it a bit with your bowing.

Add reverb until you think it sounds good, and then take the reverb down a notch.  Do that because what sounds good when you're just checking the sound will almost always be a bit more reverb than you will actually want when playing, unless you're intentionally going for a spacey/freaky sort of feel.  Too much reverb blurs the sound and you lose any work you put into getting fast note transitions to sound good. 

To recap that, in short form.  Set the violin for almost as clean is it can go, and not too much treble.  After that, treat the signal pretty much just like you would a singer's voice.  A regular singer trying to sound good, not like a death metal singer or something. LOL

For recording, set the gain in the software and on the tube preamp's output to just enough use about 3/4 of the space between no signal and 0dB, when you make the loudest nastiest noise the violin is capable of.

 

 

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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Thank you very much, Daniel.

You made it sound so simple, but it's lot of work to achieve that effect.

I will copy and save that "recipe" to a text document for reference and practice on it a bit at a time.

Thanks again, Daniel.

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Love that Old Time tune sound. Thank you for sharing that Daniel. I hope one of these days I can get up to that speed. I'm not quite there yet.

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@Siarl Bychan:  Glad you liked it.  Just an old song I've sung/played for most of my life on one instrument or another, and where my playing on fiddle/violin had finally got up to where I could play it and at least be able to recognize it. LOL

Didn't recall ever seeing it mentioned on these forums, so I figured maybe some folks might not have heard it.

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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