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Fiddlerman 2015 Christmas Project, thus far
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iBud
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Aloha everyone,

I was asked, by none other than Pierre himself, to see what I could do with "Happy Christmas (War is Over)".  I didn't know where else to stick this, as the topic has not yet been created, but I was able to come up with something (stick in your adjective here, once you're heard it).  I have parts for Violins 1-4, Viola, and Cello.  Please take a listen and let me know what y'all think.  I'm including the score as well, and will accept any and all suggestions.  Enjoy!

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Wow, I got chills listening to that. It's beautiful and I would be honored to be part of that project!

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Thanks for taking the lead on this @iBud . That looks pretty doable, except...it's in 12/8 time??? I don't think I've ever played anything -- on any instrument -- in 12/8 time. Is that how it was originally written?

That's gonna require some research and consultation with my teacher, I think. Yet another learning adventure on Fiddlerman.com. 🙂

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KindaScratchy said
Thanks for taking the lead on this @iBud . That looks pretty doable, except...it's in 12/8 time??? I don't think I've ever played anything -- on any instrument -- in 12/8 time. Is that how it was originally written?

That's gonna require some research and consultation with my teacher, I think. Yet another learning adventure on Fiddlerman.com. 🙂

Aloha @KindaScratchy,

I've seen it in 12/8 or 3/4, but is actually works much better in 12/8.  It may look a bit strange, but it's 12 beats, with an 8th note getting the beat.  In other words, four dotted quarter notes.  It's kind like a slow 1...2...3...4...  Were it in 4/4, you'l have triplets all over the place, and it just looks strange in 3/4.  As for how it was originally written, I do not have an answer as I haven't seen the original sheet music.

The primary note is the 8th note, so I think it makes more sense to use 12/8 time, especially when you consider the Violin 2-4 parts, playing the chords in the background.  See if your teacher agrees with me.  I'm not sure how to explain it any better than by saying that it works the best of all time signatures I tried.

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Aloha everyone again.

Here is version 2.  I didn't like some of the harmonies, so I'll submit the .pdf and the .mp3 files and let y'all take a listen to this one.  I don't anticipate any changes, but you never know.  This isn't the official version until Fiddlerman says it is cool  I hope if comes off as well as the Halloween video - that was great!  

 

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Oh that's exciting.

 

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I had a "disturbing/uneasy" feeling about version 1 too much "tension" and "un-resolvedness" - almost too overwhelming - as indeed are the lyrics and meaning of the original song...

I LIKE version 2 !!!!!!!   A lot !thumbs-upthumbs-upthumbs-up

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BillyG said
I had a "disturbing/uneasy" feeling about version 1 too much "tension" and "un-resolvedness" - almost too overwhelming - as indeed are the lyrics and meaning of the original song...

I LIKE version 2 !!!!!!!   A lot !thumbs-upthumbs-upthumbs-up

Yeah, I was having a couple of issues with measures 11 and 12, if memory serves.  There are a lot of moving parts, harmony-wise, and there will be some dissonance, but that was in the original as well, I think.  I've worked out most of it, but will probably need a bit of help to get it completely worked out.  I'm glad that you like version 2!

One thing to note is that I haven't even looked at the lyrics - maybe I should facepalm The other thing is that I have yet to attempt bowing any of it (I can't do the viola and cello, as I have neither).  Most of the 2nd to 4th violin parts are kind of boring, just dotted quarter notes - I apologize, but someone has to play them - but easy to bow. If you have any suggestions along those lines, please let everyone know.  I can also put the bow strokes in the .pdf file.

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Thanks iBud - great job and all the parts look very doable. The only thing I would hope is that we would be playing it a good bit slower. At the rate of your recording its a bit like being on a carnival ride :^) 

Kathy

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Ya!  Thanks, @iBud you did a great job !  

I also was wondering about the tempo- It seems faster than my memory, but I can almost play it now as is, and plan to practice a lot ! 🙂

I do wish that there was a lead in on the audio thingy (I might try to make one).  A conductor mark or something- it's almost impossible to start on time for violin1.

I also figured out how to put all V-1 on a separate, one page document.  (makes it easier)  I can share if anyone would like.

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The parts look good. Would be nice to have each part on it's own page. I can copy and paste from the pdfs if necessary, but it will be neater if the software spits it out.

Thanks for arranging this!

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I've played through V1 several times and love it. Also tried cello once through (which I am still very much a beginner on) and it might be just a bit too much for me this time but a great way to push myself to keep practicing. 

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Just4Fun said
I've played through V1 several times and love it. Also tried cello once through (which I am still very much a beginner on) and it might be just a bit too much for me this time but a great way to push myself to keep practicing. 

LOVE IT !!  I played viola as a child, and this is the first time I have ever seen it play a major role in a composition !  I am feeling joy for the viola that plays this (but I really like my violin at this stage)

ROCK ON !!!!!!!!!!!

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OPPS !  yes, I also played the cello as a child- but I still thought you were talking about the viola part--  LOL  (I have to get new glasses)

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Leana said
Ya!  Thanks, @iBud you did a great job !  

I also was wondering about the tempo- It seems faster than my memory, but I can almost play it now as is, and plan to practice a lot ! 🙂

I do wish that there was a lead in on the audio thingy (I might try to make one).  A conductor mark or something- it's almost impossible to start on time for violin1.

I also figured out how to put all V-1 on a separate, one page document.  (makes it easier)  I can share if anyone would like.

I apologize for leaving the score complete.  I was waiting on Fiddlerman to take a look and provide corrections as needed.  I can most certainly export each part individually, once it's been "Fiddlerman Approved."  Stand by for that.

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kathykoz said
Thanks iBud - great job and all the parts look very doable. The only thing I would hope is that we would be playing it a good bit slower. At the rate of your recording its a bit like being on a carnival ride :^) 

Kathy

Aloha Kathy,

Believe it or not, that is the slowed-down version.  I'll be taking another gander or two at the YouTube videos to check the tempo.  Thanks for pointing that out.  I don't want anyone to get dizzy facepalm

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Leana said
OPPS !  yes, I also played the cello as a child- but I still thought you were talking about the viola part--  LOL  (I have to get new glasses)

Aloha Leana,

I was actually trying to get the viola and cello to play complementary parts, an effort that worked out quite well.  Assuming that they get a slight bump, you will be able to hear it.  I wasn't able to do that with the violin parts, as they are the melody and the primary accompaniment.  I also didn't want to leave the cello as simply the bass part, so I added in the small runs.

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I've played through V1 several times and love it. Also tried cello once through (which I am still very much a beginner on) and it might be just a bit too much for me this time but a great way to push myself to keep practicing. 

Aloha @Just4Fun,

It was not my intention to make any part overly difficult to play, and I wanted the cello to not just be a bass line.  I apologize if it is a bit difficult for you, but am glad to see that it if providing motivation for you.  

I am now up to 32 cello etudes.  Let me know which scales you are practicing and I'll see what I can share with you.  My problem is that I don't have the skill to limit myself to 1st position or less than complicated composing, but I want to write simple pieces for that time when I get a cello and as such, will endeavor to keep beginning players like yourself in mind.  After all, I can't start off with the Bach Cello Suites, can I?  

There is a gentleman named Hans Zentgraf (he even has a channel on YouTube) that suggests a book called "Waggon Wheels" (yes, there are two Gs in the title), as the pieces are all in 1st position and the book contains piano accompaniment.  I plan on purchasing that book myself, once I get the green light from my wife to purchase a cello.

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Fidelestre said
The parts look good. Would be nice to have each part on it's own page. I can copy and paste from the pdfs if necessary, but it will be neater if the software spits it out.

Thanks for arranging this!

Aloha @Fidelestre,

Having separate scores for each part is in the game plan, but I wanted to get Fiddlerman's approval before I did that.  I am assuming that he'll probably have some guidance on better harmony in a couple places.  Anyway, once I meet with his approval, I'll provide all parts on their own separate score.

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Nice work iBud. smile

Re tempo, I had a listen to the original song, and it's pretty fast! Your mp3s aren't that far off.

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