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Hanging Tree goup project?
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Does anyone want to learn the Hanging Tree with me?  Or better yet, would anyone volunteer to put it together for a whole group project?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8UM07vsN8

 

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I am in!

I have been playing it a bit .. I would love to commit to memory...

So You want us to just post our videos here?  Or you want to make an official project page?

I really dig that tune!!

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I think it would be totally cool to put them all together like @Fiddlerman does. 

 

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Oh I see what you are saying @1sttimestar .... A group project.  Not just a party thread. (exactly what you said... I read too fast)... 😉

It beyond my expertise to get everyone to play together, in tune, in tempo, and all that.... I will keep my eye out to see if someone puts that together and try to join.

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@1stimestar : That looks doable. I'd be willing to edit the video.

Do you have that in MuseScore? If so, if you can send me the MuseScore file, I can add a click to it so we can use it as the click track. Unless you were planning to do that...

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Oh awesome Diane, thanks.  But I don't use/know Musescore so I guess not.  

 

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There are quite a few versions on the Musescore site - I actually had a look with much the same idea in mind - but all of the ones I looked at would need a "bit of re-arrangement" I guess - OR - the scrolling score as originally posted could just be re-entered in MuseScore for a single violin maybe? - both as a "play-along" and basis for separate click track.     Dunno, just expressing my interest - but it would be a nice little group project @1stimestar , good idea...

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... got me going there now - you don't happen to know the tempo of the posted piece @1stimestar ?   VERY roughly it looks like 85 x 4-beat bars in a time of 3.25 minutes - so ROUGHLY 104 bpm - but there might be a few seconds either end of the vid... so it is probably slightly slower, maybe 100

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OK, there's no stopping me - I captured the audio from your original post in Audacity.  The audio lasts fractionally over 3mins 20 seconds.  There are 84 bars in 4/4 so that's 336 beats in 3.33 minutes - comes out at 100.8bpm.  I think my guess at 100 was about right for that.

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@1stimestar and @KindaScratchy - OK - a little bit later - here some items that may be of use - I took the score (for the lead part) directly from the video and transferred it into MuseScore.  Attached are, a score sheet pdf, and two mp3 files, one with just the violin, and one with a metronome added.  I'm unable to post the Musescore .mscz file here, but if you want it, PM me with email address.

Notes: 100bpm   Also "silent parts" exactly as appear on the original work posted.  If I can find another couple of hours, I'll maybe transcribe and transpose the Viola (which has a lot of double stops ) into two additional Vln parts.  That WOULD make it an interesting little project.

An alternative is to re-arrange this slightly, and remove the dead-spaces on Vln 1.

Let me know what you all think, and, time permitting, I'm happy to continue to expand on this.....

Oh, and of course, if you spot any errors ( that would not be unlikely ), do let me know !

 

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Thanks, Bill! You essentially did what I was going to do, though you went a step further by creating the MuseScore file. I was thinking that @1stimestar had created the score in MuseScore -- or had obtained a MuseScore file.

Of course, we could have just used the video as the "click" track, even though it didn't have clicks, but I thought clicks might be helpful, so that's why I said that I'd add them. But you've already taken care of that!

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KindaScratchy said
Thanks, Bill! You essentially did what I was going to do, though you went a step further by creating the MuseScore file. I was thinking that @1stimestar had created the score in MuseScore -- or had obtained a MuseScore file.

Of course, we could have just used the video as the "click" track, even though it didn't have clicks, but I thought clicks might be helpful, so that's why I said that I'd add them. But you've already taken care of that!

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You're welcome Diane - it was another rainy morning here, so the outside work went on hold, yet again.   The click starts really abruptly, I'll do another improved version (right now) that has a lead-in and count-down such as ONE two three four, ONE two three four-and, PLAY.  And, instead of the Musescore inbuilt metronome, I'll do my own as a drum track - I'm not so keen on the inbuilt default sound.  Oh, and by the way, I'm having a shot at adding an arrangement for an additional 2 violin parts - just for fun

 Ahh yes - and @Fiddlerman - we did talk about this before, I'm sure - but I find that Musescore ( .mscz ) files still wont upload ( they APPEAR to get sent, but are never seen in the post ) - although the "attachments" dialog suggests they are an allowed type - e.g.

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It's not important for this but would be potentially useful at other times (I know they can be uploaded to the MuseScore site itself, but it would be nice to have them here) any ideas ?

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Hey, Bill @BillyG :

I was able to download your MuseScore file just fine. Did you change something since you posted that last message?

I see the file listed in your previous post, so I clicked on it and it downloaded. It opened just fine in MuseScore, too.

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@kindascratchy - Nope nothing changed - and I still don't see it in my original post - I wonder what's up - here's what I see where I posted the 4 files ( the pdf, two mp3 files, and the .mscz ) - but the mscz just doesn't appear on the uploaded page... ( for me anyway ) - now that's odd...

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... strange, or what....   hmmmm...   

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That is odd. Maybe a browser issue? I was using Firefox when I downloaded it. Now I'm on my Kindle Fire and I still see it. What browser are you using?

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@KindaScratchy - Hi Diane - I'll send a PM regarding this to help keep the thread for its original intent....   Thanks for the feedback... 

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BUMP!!!!

So for anyone who doesn't want to scroll to read up... RECAPP!!!! 

There is GREAT stuff here for anyone interested in doing a MEMBERS Group project.

Bill and Diane have come up with some great help.

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Thanks for bumping this, Toni! This has potential to be a fun project. I'm sure folks are focused on House of the Rising Sun right now, but let's not let this slip off the radar screen.

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