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Mini Group Project: The Ash Grove
Learn to play this traditional Welsh song and join other members in a mini group video project.
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KindaScratchy
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OK, I'll get the thread started on this, which was actually Robyn's idea (from the Red Wing thread).

The Plan: This will be a mini member-led, group project. And by "mini," I mean that the project won't be as elaborate as Fiddlerman's group project. It does not refer to the intended group size or the size of the participants. :) Any and all are welcome to participate!

I volunteer to produce the video on this one so that it's not extra work for Pierre. It won't be quite as fancy as his -- for example, I don't think I can do a split screen -- but it should be somewhat respectable.

The Song: The Ash Grove is a fairly simple, traditional Welsh song. It should be easy for most folks to learn. It can be played at a moderate pace.

At the bottom of this post is the music for the melody, as well as a descant, which should make for a nice sounding project.

If you're not familiar with the term, a descant is an ornamental melody or counterpoint sung or played above a theme. This descant is really easy and a good alternative if you feel the main melody is too difficult.

An Example: If you're not familiar with The Ash Grove, this gentleman does a nice job with it. Please note that his version is fancier than the sheet music that I'm posting.

Deadline: to be determined. How much time do folks need?

The Parts. Here's my sheet music. If anyone has a better version, feel free to post it and we can decide later which to use.

A click track will be posted later.

NOTE: somehow I uploaded the two parts twice and now I can't remove the duplicates. The extra files that you see listed below that end in 1 are the same thing.

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"Deadline: to be determined. How much time do folks need?"

 

roflol well, I started the Red wing project Dec 15 2011...and I got 2 of you to participate....so... dunno

 

But I really hope this idea takes off and members come up with new tunes and get involved

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How ironic, Diane..... I had never heard of " The Ash Grove" song until last night, about 2:30 am when I heard Robyn playing it. I went to Youtube and found it and learned the song in about 45 minute's.

The Ironic part is that I learned it from the same video you posted.  What a cute little song it is. Nice tempo and melody and oh so simple.

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I just remembered that I was going to post midi files, so here they are.These are at 101 bpm. Do you think that's too slow?

Also, I did a run through on the PDF files after posting the thread and realized that there were some slurs missing. I'm posting new PDFs, too. (I will try to replace them in the original post, too, if I can, to avoid any confusion.

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Thanks for starting this thread Diane, I had no idea how to do it.

Here's the copy'n'paste from the Red Wing thread:

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Gee, you guys are putting a lot of faith in someone who can't even get the tune right.

Yes, it's in G, I downloaded it at http://www.jaybuckey.com

I know that version is a little beyond my capabilities, but not difficult for the likes of Barry and Naska … and yes, you Diane, and lots of others.

I also have a simpler version, probably more to my level, but I really like the one from Jay Buckey.

There are bound to be many versions in print, all at different levels, but if we agree on a key and someone develops a click track, away we go.

I have no idea how to start a new thread, so if someone wants to do that for me (or tell me how to), we could get started.

These were offered by Kurt:

http://iowacreativemusic.com/p…..p?item=284

http://sheetmusic.lyco.org.au/…..h%20Grove/

I haven't seen them, but I'll check out the links too.  The first link here is in the key of D, but could easily be transcribed.

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So now we have Diane's versions as well.  I don't think we can be too strict about sheet music, as long as it's in key and in time.  Like the Red Wing project, it can be played however you play it.

Am I right?

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So, how do we get the video's to you, Diane... sprend ?     dunno

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The links above got mangled.

Here is the version I found in D: http://iowacreativemusic.com/p.....p?item=284 .  It is free, but you have to go through a silly checkout procedure that doesn't hurt much.

Here it is in G, with violin, viola, and cello parts:

http://sheetmusic.lyco.org.au/.....h%20Grove/

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What do you mean, " got mangled", they are in fine condition.

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Fiddlestix said
What do you mean, " got mangled", they are in fine condition.

I mean that they don't take you to any copy of The Ash Grove, and they don't take you to the same place as the ones I posted. 

Maybe if you were to try something simple such as comparing the results of clicking the two different sets of links, you would be able to tell the difference.

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Robyn.fnq said 
So now we have Diane's versions as well.  I don't think we can be too strict about sheet music, as long as it's in key and in time.  Like the Red Wing project, it can be played however you play it.

Am I right?

 

 

I think you're right, Robyn. Any variation should make it more interesting, as long as it's the same key and tempo.

I'm working on a click track now and will post it a little later.

Regarding the links...yeah, sometimes funny things happen when you copy and paste. Thanks for fixing them RosinedUp.

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I'm working on a click track now and will post it a little later.

Regarding the links...yeah, sometimes funny things happen when you copy and paste. Thanks for fixing them RosinedUp.

Yeah, no problem.  Just trying to make things better.

Can we hear from the viola players and cello players (if any) what they think of those parts at the lyco.org.au site?

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RosinedUp said

I'm working on a click track now and will post it a little later.

Regarding the links...yeah, sometimes funny things happen when you copy and paste. Thanks for fixing them RosinedUp.

Yeah, no problem.  Just trying to make things better.

Can we hear from the viola players and cello players (if any) what they think of those parts at the lyco.org.au site?

Viola player chiming in. I looked at the link and the viola part, looks fairly easy but I havent got a chance to give it a try. I'll get a feel for it and once theres a click track shouldnt be a problem to improvise if needed

 

      

bass-1222- treble-1226=   Hey, wheres the alto clef...hmm, discrimination  yell

 

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Here's a click track (link at bottom). This was my first time creating a click track, so I hope it works OK for everyone. I tried to keep the tempo moderate; it's 101 bpm.

I included both the melody and descant so you can hear how it works together and gave you four measures of "click" before the music starts.

As for the deadline, how does December 21st sound? If that's too soon, we can make it later, but feel free to send your video or audio anytime, if you get it done sooner.

Sprend your video or audio to me at dbpetit@gmail.com.

Also, here's one more version of the sheet music...this was the version that Robyn posted, but the link somehow got broken.

http://www.jaybuckey.com/pdf/F.....fiddle.pdf

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Sorry, I won't be in this project either.

I'm away till late January.

Sorry guys, I thought it was for after Christmas.

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No, wait! We can make the deadline sometime in February. December 21 was completely arbitrary; I had no idea what date to pick. I had a feeling that was overly ambitious, anyway, with the holidays.
This was your idea, Robyn, so we definitely should consider your schedule. What date is good for you?
And best wishes to your husband. I hope all goes well.
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Yes, make it in Feb, Robyn, it was because of you that this idea started, you have to be in it

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Sounds like a better plan to me.
Best wishes to you and your husband Robyn. Can't be easy having to travel that distance. Do you live in the outback? Is that why you only wear one piece of tinsel all summer? Ps. We could use some if your upside down temperatures over here!!

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By all mean's, Robyn. This project can be put on hold till all is well with your family.

Take care good luck and keep smile.

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I'm in! Cool project!

Please, don't rush with the dead-line! I vote for somewhere in February! (we have Christmas project, and i'm totally loaded with New year concert in school facepalm - Minuet Bokkerini still doesn't go well LOL!)

@Robyn! Please take care of You and your husband!!! Be well both! cow-fingerscrossed

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Thanks to all of you for your well wishes.  Yes, it's very trying for both of us, but the long term goal is his good health, and we're both putting in every effort to get to that goal.  That includes a short cruise in January, and a week at the Gold Coast with our granddaughter and other family members.  That is all part of the grand plan to get him healthy.  And of course, my encroaching insanity may be thwarted as well.

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Naska, the Boccherini Minuet is one of my favourites, I've been trying to learn it for ages.  I would love to see your video playing it.  Please???  beg

I wasn't trying to have a whinge about the deadline for the Ash Grove project, just letting you all know I'm a bit tied up at the moment.  Of course I want to be in it, and I'm so glad so many have shown interest.  Of course, many showed interest in Barry's project and look how that turned out!  embarassed

February sounds good to me.  I'll need at least a week to find the basic fingering on the violin if I'm away from it for so long, but then it'll be back to practise feverishly to be included in the project.

Terry, I'm in the tropics.  It's a long way to anywhere.

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