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redwing, one take
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fishnrodds
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hes an early morning version of redwing on my old trainwreck fiddle, no warmup or practice and one take, have fun! As usual critiques always welcome, I am thick skinned..lololol

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WOW, I think you play it fine but, your audio and video sync is really messed up. Sounded like a 1899 gramaphone recording.

I don't know if it was the recording or if it was you but, try to play at one speed, some place's you went 60mph. the next minute you were 80mph.. tap your foot to the beat or try to use a metronome, if you have one, or find one here under learning tool's.

Otherwise, good job.  clap

oh,,, if you want critisism... move your topic's to "Critique Corner", otherwise we're not sure if people want help or advise. Thankyou.

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LOL... Pretty good but the timing does start speeding up. I had to close my eyes to hear if it was your timing and not the recording. With that style of music I think it is ok to just go for it and see how quick you can play it. The more and more you play it the better and better you'll sound.

I love the recording quality... Sounds like one of those old hand wind record players with the brass horn for a speaker, which is very fitting for old time country ;-)

Good Job.

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Going to dig into my camera setting and see if its possible to change levels on my mic..or maybe ill have to back away 5 or 10 feet more. My internet speed (sloooow)might not be compatible with something also. this song has been a bit of a thorn for me , still not fully automatic and I know i tend to slow down on the more difficult spots. If I try to get my foot going it gets all messed up. Every time I practice it, it does get better, so time will tell....

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If you can slow down the frame rate or lower the video quality your video and audio sync will be improved.

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Hey Fishnrodds. Thanks for sharing this tune!! I really like that your Dad taught you this piece, and you took the time to get it down on film and share it with us.

I never ran into Redwing in the South, and I enjoyed poking around researching the song's roots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.....%28song%29

This seems to me to be a standard in the Midwest and Southwest. So I thank you kindly for throwing this out here - as it might not be a bad piece for me to learn playing around Colorado. And to break out of my whiny-Appalachian sound-rut.

I'm gonna pick up the tune from what you have here -- and add my personality to it with with a Nashville Shuffle and overstuff it with twangy Texas-sounding double stops and see what happens... gimme 2 weeks!

Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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got it going on, too bad we dont live close, we could get together on that one. Maybe we can get the RedWing project finished, I think many werent ready for it when I first suggested it.

There is no shame in playing twinkle, youre playing Mozart

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There is no shame in playing twinkle, youre playing Mozart

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I went looking for that link under the post heading but the first 5 Barry posts show up blank, and I got confused... was there sheet music or an instructional video in those posts? Subsequent posts seem to refer to these opening ones.

Curious about how fast you wanna play this... since its Bluegrassy. Maybe cut the tune down to two notes - I can bow faster than I can stick the fingering. (Just doin' the best I can with what I've got to work with over here :)

Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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I'll try to get a demo video up before the weekend, are you playing along with the jam track ?

There is no shame in playing twinkle, youre playing Mozart

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Nope. I'm always the last one to get wind of what's going on. I didn't know there was a jam track. Where is that bad boy?

I love love love playing with others - even its just a jam track. I get really lonely practicing by myself.

I just kinda stumbled onto this. I saw Fishnrodds play it, and I thought it was really cool his Dad taught him, so in the spirit of tradition, I picked it up by ear from him. Out of curiosity, did some poking around researching the song and found the original score of the pop piece by Thurland Chattaway, in Eb major. And just as luck would have it, I am working on Eb major. So I paid five whole bucks for the original score and as I had the tune in my head, was using it as a practice piece for Eb major. And, I like the sound of the Eb and Ab chords, so I starting plunking around adding drones and chords - especially on G and D strings. Not a lot of pieces at my level focus on that side of the fingerboard, and my precision is weak there. To help set my ear to Eb, I plunk out the chords on the guitar, then hop to the violin. If my ear gets discombobulated on the fiddle, I stop for a second and plunk out the chord on the piano, then go back to the double stop on the fiddle. As the song is actually sad, I quite like the softer sound of chorus with the Eb, "now the moon shines, on little Redwing". That said, it takes skill I don't have yet to play it in Eb M at the recommended bluegrass crotchet=100. Gonna be a couple months before I have any sort of consistency in that key on the low strings.

I also found free bluegrass arrangement, titled "bluegrass version of: "The happy farmer: by Robert Schumann, which must avoid the copyright on Redwing. Anyhoo, the bluegrass piece has what seems to be a standard fiddle variation in the key of G. I had set that aside for a bit to focus on the Eb. Planned to come back to it for bowing practice - for me, the variation is a nice opportunity to practice a Nashville Shuffle on a song that is new to me.

But for now, for a faster speed, I'd have to drop the new keys and fancy variation and go straight for the tune! I'd be happy to pick it back up if there was a project and other people to share with. Even if I totally stink, I'd be sure to share my best effort!!!!!

Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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