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Watchtower68
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Hey guy's and gal's.

After a rough few months here things are starting to come together had the pleasure of restringing my second violin for the second time since I've owned it(word to the wise don't skimp on the little things that will have a big effect on your instruments sound enough said)while I was stringing up I used my VSO (Violin Shaped Objectwink) to get me close with tuning as I went along.

Something caught my eye in the tail piece of the VSO so I picked it up to inspect it I though it was funny to have a string of rosin right next to the fine tuner for the G but as I looked closer I soon found this to be even stranger.

My question is this has it become common practice to make tail pieces out of aluminum?

Because that's what the tail piece is made of on this thing though the manufacturer sure claimed it was ebony I mean it really doesn't matter to me now I was just wandering though,I can't imagine this would promote a good transfer of sound or string vibration?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I've seen a few made of it. 

The sound relies mostly on the bridge and sound post I think

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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I think you are referring to your Mendini MV400.  I have one of those too.

Yes, I believe the tailpiece is aluminum.  Certainly it is not ebony.  I don't believe it is usual at all for a tailpiece with built-in tuners to be made of ebony, nor do I believe that it was advertised as such.

 

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Were you to put better strings on your MV400 "VSO" and give it a well-fit bridge and try it with a better bow, you might find that its sound and playability would be much more to your liking.  A sound-post adjustment might help too.

The thing about a lot of these cheap violins is that the basic materials (the usual spruce, maple, and ebony) and basic construction may not be so bad. but the setup is abysmal.  The tailpiece and chinrest and bows  and strings are going to be about the cheapest available.  Basically no time is spent fitting the bridge or soundpost. 

However I see nothing wrong with the fit of my pegs.  The fit of the nut is neither good nor horrible.  The worst thing is that the construction is very heavy, mine weighing about 100 grams (20%) more than a typical violin.  But DanielB reports the opposite, namely that his MV300 was very much lighter than typical.

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Many manufacturers have switched over to the all in one metal tail-pieces. In some ways it's nicer to have the removable fine-tuners for being able to remove them later though the all in ones are usually easier to use and do not buzz as easily as the removable ones.

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Thanks for the input I'd read about carbon fiber tail pieces and just wasn't sure.

Rosinup you mentioned something I'm in agreement with,of all things the tuning pegs on my MV-400 work pretty smooth to no slip no stick but since I've bought the other which is the Gliga I've found the beginner instrument that I'm happy with but had to replace the strings as I had put some cheap perlon strings on it that I had purchased from a local music store that really doesn't cater to the serious musician.

I ordered Thomastic Dominant and wow!

Of course I found a local shop finally that lied to me or at least were trying to blow smoke about the E's being a bit too bright but I've been playing this thing and don't agree at any rate so far the only people I've bought from that I can trust is fiddler shop in fact I'll be placing another order for another carbon fiber bow I just love this thing.

But its been one of those things no pain no gain the Mendini was a start but I'm now finally getting to the point to where I can actually pay attention to what I'm playing and not so much attention to how bad it sounds,and I know I'm not going to be a pro by any means because of the bow I have or strings I use but its sure made a difference not fighting to obtain a decent sounding note if that makes any since. 

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