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Acoustic Electric violin choices
Barcus Berry AE or Wood AE? Preamp needed?
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Mr.berrybird
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Every week I play in my church praise band and sometimes an occasional performance elsewhere. I have typically played my kohr k500 with this pickup. It has worked surprisingly very well for the money, but I do not want this being a long term solution. I have experimented with this cecilio electric violin, but as neat as it is, I prefer the acoustic sound right beside my head. (Along with that there are other reasons.)

 

I plan on getting an AE violin that gets the job done, but gets the job done pretty well. (Without breaking the bank. Maybe in future I will invest more, but for now, I don't want to spend too much.)

My main question is whether I should get the Barcus Berry (in natural) or the Wood.

I also saw this special, although I'm not a big fan on the placement of the jack. Also, I was planning on getting something other than kohr tongue (even though I really like my k500).

I have tried out the realist ae violins before, and I thought the acoustic sound was great. But I didn't like the placement of the jack, as it seemed in a kind of awkward position.

 

These questions have been bothering me for quite some time. How necessary are preamps? For the ae violins mentioned above? For electric/silent violins? And what are the differences/advantages of a $65, $120, and $170 preamp? What are your opinions on the preamps mentioned?

I'm sorry about the many questions, laugh I just want to be confident in my purchase(s).

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Personally I don't feel that preamps are that necessary unless you have an amp that doesn't have a built in pre amp. You can improve your sound with a preamp before sending the signal to your churches mixing board by having the preamp. I've never done much comparing between cheap and expensive preamps but haven't ever noticed a great difference. The signal will be cleaner, clearer and your options might be better as well.
The Wood AE violin is basically your K500 with a built in pickup and the BB is cheaply made Romanian violin with a built in pickup. Give us a call about a used Wood AE violin we have in the shop.

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Ok, thanks Fiddlerman!

So what preamp would you suggest? 

I have watched your review multiple times of the BB, but would you say the Wood AE is worth it over the BB?

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August 6, 2015 - 5:42 pm
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Here is a BB we sold today:

I can't really say. Usually I would say yes and I would also say that your K500 with a good or even built in pickup, perhaps built in bridge pickup would be a better solution especially since you like it.

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Alright, Thanks!

But what preamps would you suggest? 

And also is there a name to the song you played at 00:16 in the video above, or just improvisation?

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Was just browsing the new threads - can't help with the technical issues on an AE - but FiddlerMan was playing Tennessee Waltz - in his own inimitable style!  

Good luck with your quest !

I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes.  

Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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Fiddlerman
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August 7, 2015 - 3:35 pm
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Thanks BillyG,
I love the small Fishman preamps. Can have it close to you to control the tone. Just don't let the sound guys see you adjusting 😉
http://fiddlershop.com/fishman.....mp-eq.html

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Ok, thanks Fiddlerman and BillyG!

What's the main difference between the preamp you suggested and the other Fishman preamp at the same price

Do you prefer the one you suggested?

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The one you are referring to is probably a better solution for you since it has the belt clip. It's a great stage preamp. I think the thing you need to look at are the features on each one. How will you be using your pre-amp?

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I'll be using the the preamp to control tone, etc. I don't know how much I'll be using a belt clip, so I am kind of torn between the two. However, I'm starting to lean a little more toward the platinum mainly because it's a newer model.

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My thoughts exactly. I couldn't find the other model on their website which leads me to believe they have phased it out and as soon as they are sold out they will no longer be available. Go with the newer one. 🙂

http://www.fishman.com/product.....ent:violin

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Thanks Fiddlerman for all of the help! It is very much appreciated smile .

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Anytime 🙂

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