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An interesting find with my wood bows
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August 27, 2017 - 7:18 pm
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So I now have two awesome violins to play and I've been playing both quite a bit on my off time. While debating which one I prefer more (and thats still up for debate) I noticed an odd little occurrence when I used different bows. I currently have a Jean Paul Vuillaume bow and a Holstein Ipe wood bow.  Now both bows play really well on both my violins but I noticed some interesting characteristics under my ear....this may not be heard to an audience and since i only play for myself most of the time i'm not sure when i'll have it confirmed either...

With my older fiddle, no maker tags, the Ipe wood really brings out the deeper tones and seems to resonate better on the sympathetic notes (G, D etc). The Jean paul one sounds good too but seems a bit more dead, and by this i mean the G and D don't ring as well and it tends not play as deeply as the Ipe wood.

Now on my new violin it sounds much better using the Jean paul. It really brings out more of the sympathetic notes then the Ipe wood does and tends to clarify the notes a tad more where the Ipe wood tends to muddy it just a tad. 

I found it funny that the Lesser priced violin and possibly lesser quality (though thats unknown since theres no makers mark but it sounds beautiful) sounded much better with the lesser priced wood bow and the higher priced violin and presumedly better quality violin sounded much better with the higher quality wood bow. 

Has anyone else had similar experiences? 

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August 28, 2017 - 5:13 am
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Interesting observation !

I have had no similar experience, but I wanted to throw another few variables into the equation - same type of strings on both fiddles ?   Same amount of string-wear/usage?  Same rosin on both bows ?

Dunno exactlydunno just guessing - but I could well imagine these having an effect on the hair-to-string-interface ( LOL ) and hence the final sound production.   As would different hair (especially well-used v brand-new)   I guess it's these subtle combinations that sometimes make things counter-intuitive.....  but definitely an interesting observation.

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Ya know I didn't even think about the strings affecting the sound like that. I have Pro arte strings on my old fiddle now and Oblegato strings on my Maggini. The obligato are about a month and a half old, the pro arte are about a week. It very well could be the strings reacting differently to the bows! hahaha.  I'll probably replace the strings at the same time and I'll put the same type on both violins and see if it's still the same reaction. Now to stick with pro arte....or oblegato's.....my finances will probably dictate that hahaha.

Any who it's been fun. I can honestly say I practice ALOT more with both violins now since I really want to play both. Hopefully i can just sit and focus on new pieces to learn. I appear to have ADHD when it comes to learning new pieces lol. 

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August 28, 2017 - 2:54 pm
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ADHD when it comes to learning new pieces. 🙂
That makes it sound very positive. Don't let your passion burn out.
I'm glad you are feeling the need to learn new pieces.

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@Fiddlerman  Your braveheart theme really inspired me today! I've been playing around with bits and pieces but between your tune a week's and another group Im in that does occasional group pieces it really is truly motivating and inspiring me to continue to learn. 

Oh and by the way I absolutely loved your braveheart theme with feeling! Incredibly inspiring to knuckle down and practice the vibrato even though I'm at WAY beginner stages there...relax the hand...relax the hand....I'll get it one of these days .Llike everything when it comes to violin the tortoise wins the race.  Unless your truly gifted but me an old torti are good pals 😀  violin_girl

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August 28, 2017 - 5:28 pm
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Thanks so much!!!
It's my pleasure and it especially makes it fun for me to continue making videos when you guys express gratitude and give such kind feedback.:)

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