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Cecilio Electric Violin Body Style Choices
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FiddleSoon
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Hi everybody,

 

I've decided to buy my first violin. I'm probably going to get a Cecilio electric after seeing FiddlerMan's review, but I was wondering about the different body styles.

 

Are the different body types purely aesthetic, or do they play differently, make different sounds, etc? And how is the weight affected?

 

Thanks!

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I think they sound exactly the same regardless of the body style however, some may weigh less than others and that could be a good thing. Perhaps pick the one with least amount of body.

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First of all congratulations on your first violin.  An electric is a good way to go for a first violin.  I have compared the sound of my Cecilio style 4, the style 1 Fiddlerman reviewed, and the style 2 my friend has.  Acoustically my style 4 is a hair quieter, but it weighs the least.  The style 1 is louder acoustically but is the heaviest.  Once electric amplification is added however they sound more or less the same.  CEVN 4WCEVN 4W

CEVN 1BKCEVN 1BK CEVN 2YCEVN 2Y

Given how little difference there is in weight between my 4W and my friends 2Y I can't see there being any big weight difference between the 2Y and the 1BK.  This was the conclusion I came to after playing with my friend's 2Y before I purchased my 4W. 

I chose a violin that reflected my personality and my playing style, I highly advise choosing one that fits you personally.

  Also I highly advise purchasing it through KKmusicstore.com, my 4W came with book, bag, rosin, bow, amp cable, headphones, and the tuner was $10 extra all for less that $150.  You can't beat that with hickory bow!

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Wow guys, thanks for the quick answers! laugh

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Welcome to the forum FiddleSoon! Are you set up with amps, effects and or recording software to hear your e-fiddle? I have to say I have only been playing 4 months now but I own 5 different Cecilio violins. The CEVN 1Y would be my pick for an e-violin from them. If you're just starting out on violin I suggest getting an acoustic violin. Just because you can just pick it up and play it without needing headphones or anything. And as a beginner you'll want to hear yourself as much as possible. I have the $99 dollar black metallic violin and spent $50 dollars to put Dominant strings on it and it sounds great I think. Check out FMs review on that one and if you check out my last progress video for MGN on the Share Video forum thread here that is what I used yesterday. I will post a couple more videos today too. 

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Thanks KAKulow,

Finally someone with a more experienced answer. I suspected that they sound basically the same when amplified just didn't know about the weight and un-amplified sound for sure.

Seems to me that one should choose the style that is the most appealing to them visually since there is so little difference in other regards.

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Hi myguitarnow. I don't have an amp or effects. The reason I want to go with electric is so I can practice quietly. I know about mutes for acoustic violins, but I think they will make it harder to hear what I'm playing, compared to an electric with head phones. Is that true in your experience? I'll probably be looking into an acoustic in the future though.

 

I would appreciate any suggestions for amps and effects (although I'll probably hold off buying them until I know I can sound half decent with headphones.) I do have some recording software already. I play some piano (digital piano), so I'm looking forward to recording and playing accompaniments to myself.

 

Also, can you tell me, on the Cecilio electric "Yellow Maple" color, is the wood grain visible through the paint? Is the grain visible on any other colors?

 

Thanks!

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The wood grain shows just fine on the CEVN 1Y that I got. It's really tight and heavier than the first e-violin that I bought and broke. This one is great I think :

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I am using a Peavey Solo 12 watt amplifier.  It has all the basic effects that I want to learn how to use first before looking into sound boards and effects pedals.  With my Cecilio CEVN4W and amp people can hear me down the street with all my doors, windows closed at full volume(my house is made mostly out of brick).  Retail price is around $100 but you can get one from guitar center for $60-$80.  It has a preamp built in and separate output so you could run your violin in, distort it with effects, and listen to the playback via headphones.

It is a great little amp to practice and perform with, given you are not playing with a very loud band.

One thing concerning headphones:  don't use cheap ones.  I have several pairs that my wife has given me and came with audio devices(including my .  My Cecilio has killed each and every one.  Only my sony earbuds can stand up to my great white violin.

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As far as amps go, check out the Marshall AS50D and you will never turn back. I own Marshall stacks, Bose tower and the list goes on. Just check it out and you'll see what I mean 😉 Hope to hear ya soon FiddleSoon!

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@ myguitarnow, I love the way that CEVN 1Y looks. Imagine that you can get that violin for only $130. I payed more than that for some high quality cables.

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I just received my CEVN-1W (full-body white) yesterday, and the construction is awesome. This body style feels the most like a violin, and looks the most symmetrical and correct to me (I'm a graphic designer, so that sort of thing would bug me). While I'm sure it's a tad heavier than the other models, it's still barely heavier than an acoustic, so weight really shouldn't be an issue at all. Mind that you will probably NEED a shoulder rest of some sort; the body on these electrics are noticeably thinner than your typical acoustic.

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Halzen said:

Mind that you will probably NEED a shoulder rest of some sort; the body on these electrics are noticeably thinner than your typical acoustic.

I thought of that too. It would be relatively easy to put a shoulder rest on this body compared to many other styles. Also if one wants a pad similar to mine they could put a thin backing on the underside out of plastic, aluminum or similar material and secure with a buntch of mini screws.

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Fiddlerman said:

Halzen said:

Mind that you will probably NEED a shoulder rest of some sort; the body on these electrics are noticeably thinner than your typical acoustic.

I thought of that too. It would be relatively easy to put a shoulder rest on this body compared to many other styles. Also if one wants a pad similar to mine they could put a thin backing on the underside out of plastic, aluminum or similar material and secure with a buntch of mini screws.

Well, I've tried that with an exfoliating pad (which I'll be using more often once I have the new chin rest I ordered), and I managed to get the pad to stay in place by twisting a rubber band under it to position it on the violin with a second band over it to secure it. I practiced for over an hour today, and it didn't budge. I'll report back if it does slip up.

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When you say ex-foliating, is that like the rubber red round pad that I use? Those are great.

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Fiddlerman said:

When you say ex-foliating, is that like the rubber red round pad that I use? Those are great.

The exfoliating pad I use is this thick white thing with checkered texturing on both sides. I picked it up at CVS for about $2, and it's working okay for now. A lot of people online have recommended using sponges, so I'll try that out as well and see how it feels.

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Thanks, I think I understand what you are using.

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FiddleSoon said
 

Are the different body types purely aesthetic, or do they play differently, make different sounds, etc? And how is the weight affected?

 

I too am deciding on which body style to get. I read the notes about weight difference (not much) and aesthetics. My question: If my primary use for the electric violin is for "silent" practice when I can't play my acoustic violin, would it be best for me to get the model 1 that looks the most like a violin? Is there an important reason to have the real violin shape when I practice? I am a beginner, no vibrato yet, and just playing in first position. I hope to improve!

 

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What could make a difference is the length of the fingerboard and the placement of the right edge for finding positions accurately. Also the width of the bottom for using a shoulder-rest. These things are accurate and the same on all 4 models.

I don't think there is one good reason for choosing one over another.

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I have the one shaped most like a violin and the reason I got that one is I was having a problen when playing on the E string of my bow hitting the corners of the C bout.  If I got a shpe where there were no corners it would fix the problem but enhance my bad playing.  Now that I have learned to bow straight I no longer have the problem.

 

Other than that it's just what apeals to you as an individual.

 

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