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david frank
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ok i bought this cecilio black metallic silent electric violin after seeing your performance and i am quite upset cause the screw that is suppose to hold the tail piece in place wound its way out and can not be crewed back in. I took my last set of saving and bought this violin and now i am regretting it. I am a student at the University of the Southern Caribbean in Trinidad Which makes obtaining extra funds impossible. i spent about 2000TT= 311USD for this violin t get here and this is what i get in return. I dont have extra money to send this back. Since my father the cheif breadwinner of my up-keeping in school went missing things has been hard, and my life is full of it all and i am confused .....like i just spent all for nothing......plz can you help me in anyway plz let me know.

 

thanks in advance, D.F. 

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Oliver
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David

Are you sure you are not talking about the little button that holds the tailpiece loop? 
If so, that does not screw in.  It is only the pull of the tailpiece that keeps the button in place?

What's going on?coffee2

PS The electric might be different … I'm not sure, but check it out.  How do you know it should screw in.  Are there threads?

Can you send a picture?

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Tilly
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Guys, I think this person is saying they don't have the money even to send the violin back to the company to get the repairs done...

I have been thinking lately about stuff like this. I have started a new website. There's nothing up there yet, but eventually I would like to start a fund just to help out people like this. If it were up to me I would say, I could pitch in a dollar.  We could arrange it through paypal. anyone else up for this?  I will set up a fund just to help young or homeless, or otherwise helpless musicians. I will put up a page and a donate button on my site. The site is called buskcafe.com. Give me a few mins to put up this new button...

Anyone who wants to donate can and the money will be used for anyone (musician) who REALLY needs it to pay for their instruments etc. As far as documentation goes, I will think of some way of making this process transparent.

@david frank: get in touch with me and let me know exactly how much money is needed to send the violin back. Otherwise, perhaps also you can upload any pictures of the problem area and others can make any recommendations to you about it.  Or perhaps someone here could help you by being go-between between you and the company if needed.

Love, Tillycool

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Unfortunately, there may be more than meets the eye ( or ear ) as pointed out and it would take MUCH convincing for me to part with any money, if at all.  I'm sure Fiddlerman has the connections to check out the story.

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@ Barry  ... thanks for reminding us that there are some not so nice people on the internet.  But it seems a very small amount to be starting a scam with.  Nevertheless, we must, as a society, be sceptical of everything.

At the same time, perhaps this person found the site the same way I did, by a review by Fiddlerman.  This may be a totally innocent cry for help.

@ Tilly ... I don't think we're here to be in the charity business, and we do have to be careful.  But I don't think he's asking for money either, more like support.

The unfortunate truth I saw in a poster once ... 'If we keep our minds open enough, people will throw all sorts of rubbish in there'.

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Tilly
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Well, it is an idea that I have had for a long time to make a support site for street musicians and transient artists. It's up now, in a very simple form, at http://buskcafe.com if anyone wants to see it.

And there is now a donations page just for cases where someone needs help and really can't do it on their own. fish

Love, Tilly

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kakashi540
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Cool story bro :b

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I think he might have a legit problem, but somehow because of all that mushy emotional stuff we reacted negatively. Let's help him figure out how to fix the VSO and/or let him contact the company. In any case he phrased it wrong by blaming(almost sounds like it right?) Pierre for his misforutunes, and asking for help. It's like blaming the food critic for the indigestion that happened because some fisherman forgot to wash his hands and the restaurant that he recommended didn't notice. But enough attacking this poor fella, let's look past the lack of courtesy and check out what the problem really is.  

Short-term Goal:

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July 21, 2011 - 8:22 am
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First of all, I am not sure that they send fiddles to Trinidad. I remember a member telling me that they wanted an instrument but the company wouldn't send it to their country. Can any of you verify this? Secondly, if he bought it from KKmusic, for example, all he needs to do is contact the company and they will take care of it. I think several members on this forum are witnesses to this.

As far as scams go, there are guys out their that send similar stories around to thousands of sites just changing the details a little to suit every single situation. I once had a guy that sounded legit ask me to teach his son violin for the summer and gave me tons of details about it. Then his "secretary" sent me a huge check right before I was to meet the kid and "accidentally" put an extra zero on it.

I received a realistic bankers check with an envelope addressed from the correct country and was asked if I could please wire the extra amount in an account in which I received ample details for and he gave other options as well. I of course started realizing what this was all about and told the guy that I would do it when the check cashed. Of course this check was fake.

Also, I get email offers from unknown solicitors on a regular basis to be the sole inheritance of millions of dollars from rich sheiks etc. RIGHT!!!! Always sent from lawyers or royalty etc. etc.
These scammers are looking for one gullible person out of the hundreds and the ones that are better at it probably make some good money. My bank told me that quite a lot of people at their branch were scammed with those type of checks. 

David Frank - contact the company that you bought the violin from and ask them to resolve the problem. If they refuse, find someone in your area that knows violins and ask them how to fix it. These things are very easy to fix. As Oliver said in a post above, the end pin doesn't usually screw on but you are welcome to send pictures so that we can better advise you.

Good luck

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but the one who needs the least."

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Many days later it would appear that David Frank has either:

1) Resolved the problem with the dealer.

2) Made needed repairs by himself.

3) Bailed out of a total charade.

(Maybe if I set it up right I can sell him the parts that he needs for repair at a very reasonable price dancing

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Well,

it's really hard to know from this vantage point. many times I have been in a similar situation and have posted frantic questions on various forums with the result that people responded usually very curtly if at all. more often than not, though, someone did try to help me. from the tone of the original post it seems that the person is at the very least a n00b. but eye don't normally automatically think "scam" in such cases.

it brings up an issue for me, that is, how to help people who are genuinely in need. perhaps this (the donations page) is not the first thing that needed to be posted on a newly opened web portal. it may give off a false impression, leading others to think they will be scammed. nevertheless, methinks we'll just leave it there for the time being...

Fondly, T

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Fondly, T

There is a Google page for David Frank who is a student in Trinidad and his photo shows a young man with a violin.

I did not hang around there because I started to wonder about security but if you have bullet-proof anti-virus, you might take a look.

fish

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Tilly, you have a very good point.  I have, in the past gone googling with a question, only to find myself on non-so-friendly forums full of professional or at least very very experienced musicians who have forgotten the little problems us beginners suffer daily.  That's why I was so thankful when I found this forum, everyone is willing to discuss just about anything, and I've gained more knowledge here than I had in months elsewhere.

And I wish you luck with your donations page, I hope you get to help some very worthwhile people.  At the same time I really hope you don't get stung.

Best wishes

Robyn

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Tilly
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@Oliver, don't know about how good my avast is, but perhaps send me the link. didn't find anything on google. you can pm me if you want...

 

@Robyn.fnq thanks for that vote of confidence.

Tilly

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He let it go a long time ago which was enough info for me.

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It's actually a common problem. Here is a cecilio viola experiencing the same problem.wink

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