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shjotat
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my daughter wants me to buy a coloured violin for her, are these violins any good or as good as the non pained ones?

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thank you barry for the welcome and the links 🙂

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I have a blue Cecilio violin. I like it, and it plays pretty well. I think the painted violins are made from lower quality wood. Maybe wood  that does not have a good appearance. It could also have wood filler to cover mistakes made at the factory. In addition you loose a little projection of sound with the paint. One more thing, her teacher will probably take her more seriously if she has a traditional violin. 

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Thats true and since shes young she might want to join the school orchestra. A coloured violin would be a no go zone if that were the case. Can you imagine a coloured violin in a traditional-typed orchestra? surprised

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Chinny said:

Thats true and since shes young she might want to join the school orchestra. A coloured violin would be a no go zone if that were the case. Can you imagine a coloured violin in a traditional-typed orchestra? surprised

Never ever would I let my children play in a traditional-typed orchestra. Not before they're eighteen. If they start to play fiddle they will have gold-sparkle ones or black ones with white skulls. To make sure they don't get into Scandinavian folk stuff either...

I will take them seriously.

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lol what are you trying to say barry??

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Yea I don't get it either. Orchestras are usually a great opportunity to improve your skills and share knowledge with other musicians. And playing with others is fun because the end product is so so so much better in my opinion.

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I wanted a pricey electric and my wife objected. 

I then announced that if I could get the violin, I would let her pick out the color.

Done deal !  There was a nice selection of pretty colors right here in a local studio.

No woman could resist that smile

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PS  Still wound up with blue which I thought was kind of dull but mission accomplished!

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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so could someone tell me if the coloured violins are any good i know they are cheap but quality wise how are they?

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It completely depends on the maker and materials...Come on now shjotat, it just sounds like you should do a little reading up before firing off so many questions 😉

I'm not trying to be rude with you at all but you are asking many questions that are already answered on this forum. I hope all works out and you stick around.

 

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I've heard that the paint kills some of the tone. Don't know if it's true though. All fiddles are laquered and I can't see why the pigments would make the sound worse. At that age, I'm not sure if I'd have noticed that kind of tonal difference. Probably I'd been more happy to play a good looking instrument than one that looks serious in a traditional sense, even if that one would sound a slight bit better.

It's her having fun with music that's important, not what others consider serious. And learning disrespect for tradition at an early age is always refreshing!

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thank you sevento your right it is her playing and she would love it to. and ppl i understand my question may of been asked before but some of us cant live on her all day and i need to buy my daughter a violin . if i have a question i will ask thank you:) have a great day 🙂

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i asked something like this question before.  i learned that the paint doesn't let the violin vibrate as well as a natural finish.  fiddlerman said that the cvn 200 (natural finish) was more open than the black violin. 

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No, not all fiddles are laquered. And learning disrespect at an early is not refreshing to me Svento. Can you explain what you mean?

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MGN, i had to read up on the posts to know what you were talkin about 😛

 

and you definitly have to respect tradition. in not only music. if we forget tradition then what do we learn from? respect the classics people!

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I was talking about painted fiddles.

If our ancestors had respected tradition we'd all be living in the stone age. Let's burn all strad type instruments! If I ever get to the old masters grave, I'll paint some fancy tags on it...

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i do respect tradition and i think it would be good to follow tradition just thought it would be nice to be a little different but saying that i would like a quality violin this is why i come on here and ask the questions i do. thank you all for your opinions 🙂

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svento, grave desecration huh? wow

 

shjotat, yeah i was thinkin about a white one but if i get one i'll probably get cvn 200.  but then again, it would be good to have an instrument that you liked the look of. if you like it, you'll wanna play it.  but yeah, quality is nice too

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Well, I did think that the sound from that black Cecilio was great considering the price and all. Mostly painted instruments sound worse in general than varnished ones because the paint is stiffer than the soft varnishes. Though we are only talking about acoustical fiddles. Solid electric makes no difference.

I think svento is just trying to say that he thinks it is good to dare to be different. Advances are made when people try new things.

Also, I am guessing that svento is Swedish right?

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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That is pretty much why I purchased a blue violin. It does not sound terrible, the D string is pretty weak compared to the others. It had all steel strings on it and I changed them to Dominants. I bought a new violin that had higher quality steel strings and swapped them. The blue violin sounds better, D is still a bit weak, but it is playable and I still take it to work to mess with in my spare time. Customers get a kick out of it, me playing violin in their front yard on my lunch break. Sometimes in the middle of the night waiting for switching orders or material. I do play quietly at times like that. I have a hard time convincing people it only cost $100.

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