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I am considering the  installation of perfection pegs to my my Josef Bremer aka Chinese violin and wonder if it is worth it? First I am 77 years old,  second this is probably the last violin that I will own before "pushing daiseys" and third I am on a tight budget, fixed income so that I cannot purchase a better instrument so what do you think?? Are there that many advantages to geared pegs or should I just purchase some Hills peg compound for easier tuning ??   Thanks in advance  jv

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Yes, does away with tail piece tuners and they are smooth, I just order a second set.

Happy fiddling.

With violins there is no fretting over the music.

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Hi, johnv and welcome to the forum.

There is a definite advantage to them. I have them on two fiddles and wouldn't have another without the geared peg.

I'm near 71 y.o. myself.

 

Ken.

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Why not just get a tailpiece with built-in fine tuners?  $15 for the name brand or $5 for the knockoff, and no modifications to the violin. You could try that first, and if not happy, you haven't lost much.

Unless you're going for that sophisticated look.

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June 30, 2014 - 7:39 am
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Depending on your skills it could be worth it. For me, pegs are the best but for others, pegs are a curse. For many, perfection or fine-tune pegs are a blessing.
We have both options and all sizes available at FiddlerShop:

Perfection Planetary geared pegs

Wittner Finetune pegs

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I have those on both of my violins too. Tuning never was that easy and i'm happy now. =)

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About tuning.  I think the idea of geared pegs are cool.

I am not considering them because I am okay with tuning.  And you know, my violin stays in tune.  I mean after a string change the strings all have that one little turn to tune for the first day or two.

I play my violin 50 minutes to 90 minutes per day.  It is rare that it is out of tune. But every 7-9 days.. there is a minor tuning adjustment I make.  

I guess my question is .. is this normal?? that I don't tune much???  Because the amount of time I spend tuning is so very very little, I can't see why I would "upgrade." If that is the word.

THE very good news is that when my A string is out of tune.. I can tell right away now.. I play that B natural note.. and I say.. what is going on with that.. and sure enough the A string will be slightly out of tune.  So there is a bit of a mini victory for me.   I will take it.. dancinbunnydancinbunnydancinbunnydancinbunnydancinbunnydancinbunnydancinbunnydancinbunny

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Overnight tuning depends on the violin, the strings, the room conditions, etc. but I never understood the case for geared tuners when plain fine tuners work well.

I never had a violin needing frequent tuning but I have had cranky strings.

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Oliver said
I never understood the case for geared tuners when plain fine tuners work well.

When fine tuners get turned all the way in, you have to back them out and tighten the strings with the pegs, and then tune with the fine tuner. With a geared tuner, you'd never have to do that. Also, you'd avoid any problems with sticking or slipping pegs.

 

Mike

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It not just the tuning aspect. Its us old people with arthritis were tuning those small finetuners is harder. geared tuners help us, as we don't have to try and turn those tiny little suckers.

With violins there is no fretting over the music.

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Yes I can imagine physical reasons for geared pegs.

With fine tuners I install new strings with the screws at max height.  Then I only have to keep turning down to adjust tuning over the life of the strings.   In fact, I only tweak things a few times/wk.  Minor stuff/

Fact is I would have geared pegs except for the price and the excessive winding to tighten new strings.

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There is no excessive winding when replacing the strings, just pull the peg out and it turns as a normal peg, push it in and it becomes a fine tuner again.

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Tuning violins. Twice this year we were hired to check, do maintenance on and adjust violins at a school. The fine tuners on 99.9999999999% of all those violins are screwed all the way down. How in the world do they get any help from the fine tuners that way? Exactly as mentioned above, you need to loosen them and tune the instrument using the pegs frequently. Obviously strings are most likely going to be too flat as they stretch or slip. Also, please keep an eye on your bridges because if they are not straight they will eventually warp. I still have the same bridge Jan made me from about 20 years ago and it's perfectly straight. :)

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