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Is this a good deal? Please help determine!
Newbie thinking about picking up the violin - found this deal on craigslist.
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Ranilus
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January 23, 2014 - 9:25 pm
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Hi all,

The thought of learning the violin has been eating at me lately. I've been looking around online and lurking in various forums. 

 

Last night I decided to look at my local craigslist (Cleveland/Akron areas, OH), and this one below stood out to me the most:

 

http://cleveland.craigslist.or.....75803.html

 

According to the poster, this is a Suzuki violin with the top being solid spruce aged over 20+ years, comes with bow, rosin, and case. Too good to be true? In one of the pictures, there is a piece of paper that says Suzuki Product Warranty. 

 

I know craigslist can be dangerous, but this guy says he is selling the violin for his daughter, who is a retired violin teacher no longer teaching. I am heading over there tomorrow to check it out. When I asked the guy on the phone about if this violin is set up, he seemed confused and told me it is brand new and good to go. I explained that brand new violins usually need some adjustments but he didn't know anything about that. 

 

It doesn't help that there is no model number, and searches online did not yield any useful information about student-grade Suzuki brand violins. 

 

Any thoughts and/or advice? Thanks!

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Fiddlerman
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January 24, 2014 - 8:09 am
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The violin might be OK but his description is bogus.

You won't find anything of this quality for less than $650. This Outfit includes a deluxe case with backpack straps, rosin. This is the best value in a fine student violin in OHIO for under $400.

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Exceeds M.E.N.C

Ridiculous to say. Sounds like a salesman to me.

In any case, we can't tell you if it's worth it. It looks OK though he is not even a violinist and can't tell you much about how it plays. Wonder if he can have his daughter give you a call?

Looks a lot like our Apprentice violin. Difference is that I adjust and test each one.If anything is wrong with it, we take care of it. If a violin can't be made to sound nice we return them.

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Let me start by saying that I'm not an expert at judging the price of violins, but I am an expert in getting ripped off -- those are my qualifications.

Before you do something like that, I would urge to to check out ebay, etc. You can get Suzuki violins all day for $100-$200 bucks.  That ad is very short on facts and very long on hyperbole and claims which you can't easily verify.  Is it worth $500? Maybe -- but I'd be very skeptical.  There are too many reputable places to get violins that sound good and play well for $500 or less to take a chance on people selling stuff on ebay or craigsliist.  Those places can be OK for people with a lot of knowledge about whatever it is their buying -- but there are no great deals on anything on either of those sites.  Everything gets sold for at least what it's worth and sometimes a lot more. 

Lastly, I suspect the reason that the wood has been aged over 20 years is that the violin is over 20 years old.  If you look on ebay you'll notice that most of them were produced in the 1970's.  As far as it not being a a typical student violin, that's a stretch -- since that's all Suzuki made (student violins)  and they were sold by violin teachers that used the Suzuki method -- not that, that's a bad thing -- but it IS a typical student violin with a pretty hefty price tag for what it is. If I were going to make a offer on it, I don't think I'd go above $200 and I'd want to have it looked at by a professional before I paid that much.

There many reputable places (including Fiddlerman right here) that will be happy to sell you a  good violin at very reasonable price and will stand behind what they sell -- often with a money-back guarantee if you aren't satisfied.  For example, I just bought a Fiddlerman Concert violin here last week -- I'm not a fiddle player -- yet, but it looks and sounds like it's worth at least what I paid for it. it's easy to play has good tone, flamed maple back, comes with excellent strings on it, has a really nice case, rosin, a top notch carbon fiber bow, comes completely set up and ready to rock Bach -- plus it's only 400 bucks and there isn't even any shipping charge.  

Another avenue, if you don't want to buy stuff online, is to go to some of the local music stores in your area; parents sell their kids violins back to the stores all the time and that can be a really good way to find a decent student violin (albeit slightly dinged) at a good price -- if you go to a reputable store. That works best at the end of the school year though.

 

Good luck in your search.  I got one last week and dude -- it's fun.

 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright

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@ Uzi: Great post, I bought the Concert violin over one year ago, but at that time it was called the, Concert Master and i'm totally satisfied with it.

 

Ken.

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January 29, 2014 - 9:50 pm
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Thanks guys!!

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