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November 18, 2013 - 6:56 pm
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Hey all.

Well, I've Finally got my search for a new violin for me and my brother down to 2.

I is traditional so I'm not posting it, but the second is very unique.

Made to look like a Uke, but is an electric violin.

 

I know you don't have many details, but based on the design, does this look like it could be practical, or more just for unique design?

 

Any thoughts are appreciated as I have to place my order asap.

 

Okay.... I can't figure out how to add a photo, so I have to use a link to ebay.

Hope that's ok.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Advance.....5af73b5bba

 

 

Thanks everyone.

 

 

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I would stay away from this one. My reason is that going up the neck by the bridge, underside of the neck. There is a landmark missing. The thumb notch on the neck. Violinist use this as a reference point for their thumb to know where their hand is on the neck.

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Kevin, I dont follow you?? that notch doesnt really cradle the thumb, rather tucks in the spot between thumb and index finger, which I think the wings on the head of the electric does the same idea?

 

what about the Headless electrics?  some pretty famous ones where the pegs are on the bottom of the violin, you know?  no notch there.

 

is it really a problem ??

 

thanks kindly

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hey,

yup, i know that. what i mean is there are professional headless electrics, so, if they dont use a notch, trying to see how this would create an issue?

 

i dont know thats why im asking is all.

 

thanks

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yup again, just discovered to my correction, headless retain the notch.

 

that SUCKS, I was so attached to that.

 

Now it's a conventional acoustic or basic skeleton type electric... that same seller makes the skeleton with  mechanical gears and a small notch

 

darn, but thats for pointing it out.

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The problem with non-standard instruments isn't that they can't sound good or work well.  But if you are early in the learning process, most of the advice or tutorials you find will be assuming that you have a reasonably standard instrument.

This one being missing a standard "landmark" that folks use to confirm that their hand is in the right place could make it more challenging to learn on.  If your ear was already a bit developed and your intonation was good, it might not be so bad.

My thought would be that headstock has not only some metal, but a bit more wood than a standard violin "scroll" that would likely mean the weight and balance would also be different.

Another hint that the design may not have been so much well thought out as being different just to be different are the tailpiece fine tuners.  On an instrument with geared tuning machines, fine tuners wouldn't usually actually be necessary.  We don't know if they are there because people ask for them if they are left off, or because the thing drifts out of tune a lot.  

Getting a shoulder rest to fit it or if you decide a different chinrest might be more comfortable, you're likely to run into some problems with that body shape.

Now, the vendor claims that many people use it to win competitions.  So maybe contact the vendor and see if they can give you some links with some footage showing it being played or sound samples so you can hear what it sounds like?  Maybe some websites of people where you can hear their playing and where they talk about what they like about this particular style of instrument?

Still, though, if you really like the style, 95$ isn't that much, when it comes to musical instruments. If it ended up being the worst musical equipment mistake you made in your life, you'd have gotten off pretty easy.  On the other hand, who knows?  It might be pretty sweet in person and actually play well.

But if you're looking for a recommendation for a beginner instrument, I tend to side with Kevin that for most folks, sticking close to standard shapes and etc is likely to save you some grief.  If you already know how to play and you try something odd-shaped and it works out for you, that's kind of a different situation.

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November 19, 2013 - 11:23 am
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Thank you both.

That made perfect sense.

 

I decide to order a classic acoustic with Rosewood fittings and inlaid ebony fingerboard for the same price !

 

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT !!  (picture is bad as I had to cut any paste the add ons)

 

(and yeah ! I figured out photo attachments, haha)

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I agree about staying away from that electric violin for not having the guide. I know that I would not like it for that reason.

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@cancelx07 do you have a link you could send me for the one that you are getting?

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hey mate

the LINK is at the start of this thread.  Same seller, just click on VIOLINS on the left side menu,  not electric violins.

 

it's the lowest price one in the list,  on sale for $65

 

however, it is all ebony and no inlaid fingerboard.  that is a bit of custom work im getting done to it (I've dealt with him before and got custom before)

 

very accomodating though. and nice work so far.

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