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OldOgre
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Today I picked up TheSoulessWonder and started to play and something was off..

So I started checking it over, finer tuner, tail piece and seams.

Low and behold the lower right bout on the back had separated for about 4 in.

I think that the constant weather changes here were the cause.

Good thing I have a backup, I can still play till I order some hide glue. It shouldn't be a hard fix, more of a nuisance. But it reminds us all to check those seams in the winter months.

Happy Playing.

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First, I am sorry about your seam separation.  I worry about that happening here.  When you put it together, what clamp will you use?  I ask because I do not know how much pressure is required.  I found at a "Dollar store" large clips and wonder if they would have enough power to do the job.clipp-001.JPGImage Enlarger

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Oh no! That stinks 🙁 Were you keeping it in a case? Or laying out for easy access? 

I keep my old German fiddle out hanging on the wall for when I don't feel like dragging out the Ming, but the Ming gets kept in a case with an Oasis case humidifier. Humidity levels still drop a bit, but it's more gradual and stays more stable. 
 
For clamps, my teacher has told me that if I ever need to close up a seam (on the old fiddle, not the Ming) that a chin rest will work as a good clamp, since we usually end up with some extras of those, and would save having to buy clamps.

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Sounds like a good idea Mandy I have a couple of those laying around.

And I think it was more temperature then humidity. I live in a 100+ year old drafty farm house. Depending on which way the wind is blowing, you either roast or freeze...lol

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My house isn't 100 yet, but it is drafty and not very well insulated. I feel your pain, haha. 

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You feel her pain, and her chill.  😉

Been there myself.

I have lived in nice houses, and houses that should have been condemned. I could see daylight where the wall met the ceiling, in one house we lived in. That open seam was near live wires hanging down from the ceiling, that used to be a light fixture. Oddly enough, that house isn't there anymore.

At least my current place is well built, and well insulated.

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Yike O.O. 

I am glad you have a back up.  It sounds like you have it under control.  I am glad to read that it is a minor disaster and not a major disaster.

I think my humidity is the same in my house year round... I think.  I guess I should check it out some time.  My Violins are out and hanging so I can use them all the time.   I need to order another music stand and holder for my second violin. I think that will help me use both violins.   I don't switch off back and forth as much because the notes are in slightly different spots and I am always trying to improve my intonation.

oppps ramble.

Keep us posted on your repair.

Cheers and (I am sorry)

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Although I have a stable temperature, during the winter months, my humidity can vary by quite a bit in my apartment.

I have taken to misting my plants in the evenings if the humidity is not too low, but I have to do mornings and evenings when it gets really cold and dry outside. When it gets really dry outside, it gets really dry inside too.

I keep track of the humidity with a hygrometer in the living room, and another one in the bathroom. Naturally, the one in the bathroom never gets as low as the one in the living room, but I have seen the humidity in the bathroom drop way down too.

It is a problem that I do not have a ready solution for right now. A humidifier is an option, but I already use a lot of power for computers, tablets, phones, and lights for my plants. I hate plugging-in more things to those outlets.

Anyway, at least the temperature is stable... during the winters. It will start heating up in here during late spring, and then get hot in here by mid summer.

And Toni, I seldom apologize for my long winded rambles. People can either chose to read my posts, skim over them, or ignore them, it is their choice.  😉

I do not feel that you need to be sorry about sharing what comes to mind either.

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@MACJR, they make humidifiers with humidistats (I still need to confirm they actually can be set for a specific humidity level and it will keep it there, rather than just reporting it.)

I just had somebody out to my house to talk about that, and the humidifier doesn't need to be in a specific room. The best place would be somewhere that would get a breeze going into the return for the heater (assuming central heat. Individual space heaters would be a different story.)  The idea is to humidify the house, not just one room. (Although it might be possible to do just one room, if you kept the door closed.)

To all: relative humidity is how much water is in the air compared to the max it can hold. Warmer air can hold more than cold air.

That means that the humidity is higher (wetter) in your house in the summer (if you use air conditioning) and lower (drier) in the winter. Your air conditioning system (assuming you have one) takes some of the water out, but it's still going to tend to be higher than average (and higher than outdoors, simply because you've cooled the air.)

I've don't feel it 99% of the time, so I never worried about it. But with several violins to care for now, I'm looking into the possibilities. If the humidifiers with humidistats I saw on Amazon can be set to keep the humidity at a certain level, I should be home free.  If they just show the humidity and have to be manually turned on and off to "adjust" things, I'll have to keep looking.  They weren't too expensive - $60 or so.

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You need to use spool clamps for that repair.  They are relatively cheap and can be found on most luthier supply websites.  You could even make your own if you have the spools.  Chinrests would work if you have a couple. 

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True that. pilot, you know we have a DIY badge in case you want to share what you have done. 🙂

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I'm a newbe to the forum.  How do I get that badge?  Does someone else on the forum give it to me?  Yes, I would like that badge.

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@zpilot - "achievement" badges are given by Pierre ( @admin ) - but - usually in response to an actual post, containing video and / or set of stills and discussion showing (in the case of DIY ) how and what you did...     Other badges are similar - submit a video of playing, or for critique, or for live playing (usually on StreetJelly)... 

For your own DIY work - as mentioned in the post above above - 

Fiddlerman said ....
True that. pilot, you know we have a DIY badge in case you want to share what you have done. 🙂 

 

We have a lot of practically-minded folks here, who are always happy to get (and to share) any tips or tricks or general info on violin care, repair, maintenance etc...  so if you have a video, or set of stills and text describing what you did, feel free to share ! thumbs-up

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