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Normal for cork to lift finish?
Cork ruined the finish of violin
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IMG_2770.JPGImage EnlargerI bought a new violin (not fiddlerman) recently and when I took off the chinrest to put on another the finish came off with the cork on the top.  Being new to violins I was pissed and contacted the maker who told me that is normal in a good violin.  Is this true?  I can't imagine having a nice expensive violin do this.  Here is a pic

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Hello and welcome.

 IMHO it looks like either the finish wasn't completely dry or the cork might had had a solvent on it (ie, the glue bleed through) I'm wondering who the manufacturer is.

With violins there is no fretting over the music.

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Yes it does happen.  The adhesive used to keep the cork together is the culprit.  I switched to using leather.  But what violin?  and is the varnish gone?  It looks as though that could be polished out, can't tell for sure though.

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It's a Kennedy Violins Anton Gerard.  I believe the finish is actually pulled off rather than the cork veins stuck to it.  I didn't expect this in a $1000 instrument.

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joejitsumd said
It's a Kennedy Violins Anton Gerard.  I believe the finish is actually pulled off rather than the cork veins stuck to it.  I didn't expect this in a $1000 instrument.  

I have read at least one review of a Kennedy violin that had varnish come off when the chin rest was remove.

My guess is that Kennedy does not wait for the varnish to dry completely before they slap on the chin rest and fittings.

It is one of the reasons I passed over buying a Kennedy violin, even though they are based in my own state.

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I did not mean that part of the cork would be on the violin.  I meant that the chemical adhesive was affecting the varnish, kind of like off-gassing.

Here's the bottom line:  can you get past this?  Sometimes a thing happens on violins and it just eats away at you until you make a change.  Sometimes you can say to yourself, hey its no big deal.  If your new chin rest covers this, then you won't see it everyday and it may not bug you too much.  If though its going to eat at you, then take care of it now while  you still have the ability.  And then buy from Fiddlerman. 

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MrYikes said
I did not mean that part of the cork would be on the violin.  I meant that the chemical adhesive was affecting the varnish, kind of like off-gassing.
Here's the bottom line:  can you get past this?  Sometimes a thing happens on violins and it just eats away at you until you make a change.  Sometimes you can say to yourself, hey its no big deal.  If your new chin rest covers this, then you won't see it everyday and it may not bug you too much.  If though its going to eat at you, then take care of it now while  you still have the ability.  And then buy from Fiddlerman.   

I couldn't get over it.  I have a fiddlerman master on the way.  🙂

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I would love to say that everyone except for us sell instruments that are defective and messed up but the truth is that the varnish is not made to endure the long time pressure of cork being pressed on its surface. It's super normal.
Give me a call tomorrow at Fiddlershop and I'll give you some tips on how to better that. If you'll be placing a new chin-rest over that area, no one will see the damage. 🙂

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