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 As many of you know, Antonio Stradivari has made over a thousand instruments. However, I found this one very interesting.

The Charnot Chardon is a violin built in 1718. It has been owned by Timothy Baker and Joshua Bell, and is currently loaned to Simone Lamsma.

What's so curious about it is it's format - instead of the standard violin shape, the instrument is shaped like a baroque guitar. And, of course, the sound is really good - it's a Stradivarius afterall.

Here's a video performance of Simone Lamsma playing it:

I personally think the instrument looks and sounds great. I'd love to own a replica, if there even is such a thing. I've seen Carbon Fiber instruments before that don't have the Cs, but it'd look great on wood. :D

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Isn't that so very very cool.  Thanks. IT is utterly Gorgeous. 

I love it.

Off topic, (sort of) I watched a PBS Special with Joshua Bell.  He was mentoring a group of kids to play in NYC.  IT was a chance of a life time for these kids.  I became a bigger fan of J. Bell.  I love his passion when he plays.    

(http://www.youngarts.org/young.....asterclass)

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Aloha @augustoad,

Thanks for sharing the video.  I've seen violins shaped like that on eBay.  Actually, eBay has a few different "baroque" designs.  For something completely ostentatious, have you seen the Norwegian design?  I've attached a picture of it.

On the playing, wow, just wow!  She is amazing.  i especially like the shot from behind showing her left hand while it was just dancing on the fingerboard.  I need to get my thumb to do as hers does.  Mine rides up a bit more.  I love the passion she shows while playing.  What an amazing piece and just as amazing performance  Thank you again for posting that.Screen-Shot-2014-11-25-at-08.21.08.pngImage Enlarger

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I was completely unaware of that design.  Thanks.  Great video too. 

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coolpinkone said
Isn't that so very very cool.  Thanks. IT is utterly Gorgeous. 

I love it.

Off topic, (sort of) I watched a PBS Special with Joshua Bell.  He was mentoring a group of kids to play in NYC.  IT was a chance of a life time for these kids.  I became a bigger fan of J. Bell.  I love his passion when he plays.    

(http://www.youngarts.org/young.....asterclass)

This sounds interesting! I'll take a look during next weeked, if I have time. :D

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Aloha @augustoad,

Thanks for sharing the video.  I've seen violins shaped like that on eBay.  Actually, eBay has a few different "baroque" designs.  For something completely ostentatious, have you seen the Norwegian design?  I've attached a picture of it.

On the playing, wow, just wow!  She is amazing.  i especially like the shot from behind showing her left hand while it was just dancing on the fingerboard.  I need to get my thumb to do as hers does.  Mine rides up a bit more.  I love the passion she shows while playing.  What an amazing piece and just as amazing performance  Thank you again for posting that.Screen-Shot-2014-11-25-at-08.21.08.pngImage Enlarger

Hey iBud, that's actually what they call a Hardingfele or Hardanger Fiddle! It has the normal 4 strings plus 4 or 5 strings that you don't play - rather, their only purpose is to resonate while you are playing. It sounds very haunting, take a look:

And yes, I wish I would play as well as she does. But hey, I still have a long road, I've only been playing for two years. xD

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I was completely unaware of that design.  Thanks.  Great video too. 

You're welcome! always nice to have someone to share this as well. :)

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Aloha @augustoad,

That is a very interesting sounding instrument indeed.  I found another video, of Annbjorg Lien playing it.

BTW, how do you link the YouTube video like that?

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You can get something similar from Tim Phillips in the UK.  Not a Strad, of course, but nice all the same.

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iBud said
Aloha @augustoad,

That is a very interesting sounding instrument indeed.  I found another video, of Annbjorg Lien playing it.

BTW, how do you link the YouTube video like that?

That was awesome! loved her performance.

To link the youtube video like that, all I did was to copy the video adress into my post.

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You can get something similar from Tim Phillips in the UK.  Not a Strad, of course, but nice all the same.

Nice! wish I had that much money to buy it, though. :(

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Absolutely gorgeous. The sound is amazing, it's really something out of this world even though I'm more into Amati sound violins. Stradivarius intimidate me.

@iBud How I loved to get one of those! Very unique. It reminds me of the porcelain violin we have in Antique Art Museum in Lisbon.

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Absolutely gorgeous. The sound is amazing, it's really something out of this world even though I'm more into Amati sound violins. Stradivarius intimidate me.

@iBud How I loved to get one of those! Very unique. It reminds me of the porcelain violin we have in Antique Art Museum in Lisbon.

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That looks awesome! I wonder if it's playable. I wonder if porcelain would actually resonate well.. I also happen to be an ocarina player, and clay resonates pretty well, but I don't know about porcelain.

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ElisaDalViolin said
Absolutely gorgeous. The sound is amazing, it's really something out of this world even though I'm more into Amati sound violins. Stradivarius intimidate me.

@iBud How I loved to get one of those! Very unique. It reminds me of the porcelain violin we have in Antique Art Museum in Lisbon.

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Hey Howdy ,

Stradivari Intimidating ?  Dang , they are sooo versatile ...however , my heart belongs to my German 1880 - 1890 Amati ...still trying to find another Amati like it ...violin-1267IMG_2137.JPGImage Enlarger

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bfurman said
You can get something similar from Tim Phillips in the UK.  Not a Strad, of course, but nice all the same.

Aloha @bfurman,

I agree that the price is just a tad high, but I really like open scroll.  I've never seen that or the different wood patterns on the ribs.  I really like the brown and blonde model.  I just wish I had the wherewithal to buy it smile

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ElisaDalViolin said
Absolutely gorgeous. The sound is amazing, it's really something out of this world even though I'm more into Amati sound violins. Stradivarius intimidate me.

@iBud How I loved to get one of those! Very unique. It reminds me of the porcelain violin we have in Antique Art Museum in Lisbon.

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Aloha @ElisaDalViolin,

That is a gorgeous violin!  I don't that I would think of playing it.  I think I would simply look at it and admire the amazing designs painted on it.  The artwork is as beautiful as the violin itself.  Wow, just wow!  What an amazing instrument!

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Aloha @Tucson1,

You also have a very nice instrument.  Over 100 years old?  Wow, I wonder how good it sounds.  I don't think mine is pretty young, although the sound it creates is shaped by the musician or "person trying to play the instrument", in my case. cool

Someday, I would like to buy an old instrument, but that will be after I get a bit better on the one I have.  I'd actually like to find an old 5-string fiddle.  

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@augustoad - I never thought if it was playable when I saw it, but it's a really good question. I might ask my teacher.

@Tucson1 - They are versatile but they also are non forgiving (well, at least imo). They intimidate me because of their sound projection. Too sharp and clear for my ears. I love how your instrument looks. It's very pretty, thank you for showing it :) I would be so so happy to just have an Amati based model. I don't ask too much XD

@iBud - It was my reaction when I saw it first time :)

 
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Hey Elisa ,

Too sharp and clear may be a description of a " bright " as opposed to " warm / dark  " violin sound / tone ....   easy fix ..just put warm strings on a bright violin or bright strings on a warm / dark violin and you can have yer cake and eat it too ....if we have cake , we should eat it ...

Remember that what we hear under our ear is not always what a listener hears ...just sayin'.  

A couple of pro violinist / teachers , one of which is a playing judge for the VMAAI and is in the Tucson Symphony Orchestra have played my Amati allowing me to hear it's full potential ...far beyond what i can do with it ...I am delighted to say the tonal quality is nothing short of amazing ...terrific sounding instrument ...lucky me ...but then again , a pro violinist can make a silk purse out of a sows ear ....but all in all , i'm very happy with this old Amati ...

thanks fer yer interest ...happy playin' to ya ...violin-1267

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Playing with different sets of strings helps and the enviroment differences too, but I was talking generally. I have played with a collegue who has this "stradivari personality" violin and even when he changes strings to warmer ones, the sound overpowers the rest.

It's beautiful listening to, but in a player perspective, it's too overwhelming for me hence saying it intimidates me. I'm a quieter and warmer person :) It's personal taste.

You have a real treasure over there. Again, thank you for sharing smile

 
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