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Mgn,I agree with you! I for one cannot afford expensive violin. I hope you will find some other good luthier! Good luck! I think there are only two in my area (the other two from the luthier around the world list are actually guitar guys), i have seen one of them, but according to my daughter's teacher, he doesnot have very good reputation. The one with good reputation is so busy that I called yesterday morning and haven't heard from him yet. My daughter's teacher said sometimes he is so busy and you have to leave your violin with him for a week.

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myguitarnow said:

I changed my strings on two Cecilios this morning and it went pretty smooth. They all are rolled really nice on the pegs. It went a lot easier than when I changed strings a few weeks ago. For some reason though the ball snapped off of my A string and I didn't turn it too tight or anything. Still using it though. I put Dominant medium strings on.I tied a knot at the end of the string. It's working and staying in tune. Yep even though my hand still hurts from my accident, I'm playing the fiddle today.

 

Side note: Yesterday I brought my Cecilio violins to a luthier to check and adjust the sound posts for me and he told me he doesn't touch cheep violins. He was kind of a jerk to me. He sure won't get any of my business when I step up to an expensive violin.devil-violin

Nice guy, I was kind of amazed at the guy I went to. He handled my $100 special very respectfully. He listened carefully to my concerns, made some suggestions, some adjustments. He treated me very well and got my business when I upgraded. It is a shame there are people like the one you ran into.

 

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Glad to hear that you can play the fiddle again after your accident. If you feel like mentioning his name here we can all black list him. :-)

Even I wouldn't want to bring my fiddle to this guy. I don't like snobs.

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myguitarnow said:

 

Side note: Yesterday I brought my Cecilio violins to a luthier to check and adjust the sound posts for me and he told me he doesn't touch cheep violins. He was kind of a jerk to me. He sure won't get any of my business when I step up to an expensive violin.devil-violin

Wow! Whatever happened to respecting the customer? He could have treated you well and gotten years of business out of you. I just don't understand that attitude - I have a very strong aversion to snobs. Unfortunately, they are everywhere.

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The nice thing about snobs is, they identify themselves. There is no doubt in your mind that they are snobs. Easily avoided in the future. They are not like closet racists or other types of "false" people.

 

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David Burns said:

The nice thing about snobs is, they identify themselves. There is no doubt in your mind that they are snobs. Easily avoided in the future. They are not like closet racists or other types of "false" people.

 

Dave

You make a good point, Dave! coffee

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Hey Cat,

How far is South Beach from Bend? My daughter just moved out there recently. I drove her out once last fall. Nice trip, nice scenery.

 

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Hey Cat,

How far is South Beach from Bend? My daughter just moved out there recently. I drove her out once last fall. Nice trip, nice scenery.

Dave

 

South Beach is about 4.5 hours West from Bend. It's a nice drive. In fact we'll be making it next month for a camping/boating trip. Haven't decided yet to take my fiddle - the people we're meeting up with play guitar but they don't play anything that I'm familiar with.

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Have them learn MGN's acoustical blues shuffle and you can practice with the playback file then jam with them.smile

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Fiddlerman said:

Have them learn MGN's acoustical blues shuffle and you can practice with the playback file then jam with them.smile

Getting this particular group to do anything as a group is about as easy as herding cats! surprised They all have very definite opinions about what music is "worthy" of being played, and let's just say that I was born too late to know all that 60's stuff smile I was thinking that I might be able to learn some shuffles and play along in the background - this group has their own soloists and there is no room for anyone else.

On second thought, why do I want to play with these clowns?

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David Burns said:

The nice thing about snobs is, they identify themselves. There is no doubt in your mind that they are snobs. Easily avoided in the future. They are not like closet racists or other types of "false" people.

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On second thought, why do I want to play with these clowns?

Good points! 

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Why does my A string sound wierd, not open A, it's almost like trembling or like the fiddlerman's bad A string if you have watched his video on how to change strings. I put my new strings on yesterday morning, it sounded fine then, but tonight it sounded so bad that i don't feel like playing on it. Should i put a new string on (but it's brand new!)?

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That is a tough question without seeing the fiddle. Make sure that nothing is loose at the tailpiece. I doubt that it is a bad string if you just changed it. Also make sure that the fine tuner isn't screwed down so much that it touches the violin underneath.

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Hey pky, also make sure your fine tuner is not too loose as it can vibrate. I had some weird sounds when I learned that I was putting too much rosin on the bow and got build up on the strings. Make sure you wipe off your strings.

 

And Barry, I spoke in words the universal high sign to that luthierclap

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Thanks, I checked the fine tuners, they are fine (I used to hear some tinkling sound but after I tightened it it's fine now).

My violin just doesn't sound right! Yesterday was A string, today the D sounded the same! I cleaned the strings as well, maybe i should use alcohol wipe. Will try that tomorrow, I'm done for today.

BTW, would heat make a difference? Yesterday it was around 90 degree here, today is about the same.

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Wood expands in the heat plus the glue can loosen in the heat. Most violins are glued together using heat glue. Probably not a problem though at 90 degrees. You can rub your hand back and forth on all the edges to see if it sounds differently. It will sound more open, kind of hollow if it is open. Also you can often see if it has opened somewhere.

Can you describe the sound that is not right a little more specifically?

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Shine a flashlight into the violin in a dark room.

Look at seams/joints around outside.  ( On the DARK side!)

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no cracks, one side of the ribs does seem to be thiner than the other side.

Clean the strings with alcohol wipe as well. I don't think i use that much rosin, There was rosin accumulated on the strings, though. After i clean it, a few minutes later, it sounded shaky again - i thought my violin begins to sound like the guy's violin in frustration waltz.

i also tried a different bow, it was shaky, too. May be my bowing skill is bad, but it didn't sound like that before. Any way, I'll blamed it on my skill for now.

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What I was referring to was actually the opposite. Maybe you need to use more rosin. You see the sound won't be very good if the string does not vibrate enough. Let's hope the sound gets better with time. Violins usually get better and better over time.

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Hmm, I don't think I use too much rosin as I said, because there's hardly any dust on my violin after I use it, therefore, I was wondering if I use too little rosini even though the strings do feel sticky. I also thought may be because I have been using a lighter rosin that hasn't been started well? I used to use my daughter's dark brown rosin and it sounded great, however, it went with the violin to the luthier for repair. She has a dark brown one that came with the one on loan, I will try that and see if it does better.

Thank you for all the helpful hints. I don't want to play like that frustration waltz guy (I do like his techniques, though:)

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