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Bz.Raad
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Hi everybody.

I live in Iran and there aren't many choices to buy a violin here.actually the best brands you can find are karl-hofner, stagg, strunal, glaesel, roderich-paesold and yamaha(silent) also hand-crafted which sounds great.

I don't like the silent violins at all so there are 2 violins that seems better and I can afford : Stagg XHG, Hofner H5G.

I like the stagg sound (based on the preview on thomann.de) but the name hofner seems more promising and people here buy  hofner violins better if you want to sell your violin.

thanks for any suggestion.

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Bz.Raad said
Hi everybody.

I live in Iran and there aren't many choices to buy a violin here.actually the best brands you can find are karl-hofner, stagg, strunal, glaesel, roderich-paesold and yamaha(silent) also hand-crafted which sounds great.

I don't like the silent violins at all so there are 2 violins that seems better and I can afford : Stagg XHG, Hofner H5G.

I like the stagg sound (based on the preview on thomann.de) but the name hofner seems more promising and people here buy  hofner violins better if you want to sell your violin.

thanks for any suggestion.

Hello Raad,

I know nothing about the Violin market in Iran but if it's anything like the local market here in Argentina, it's dismal at best. Argentina "doesn't play nice" on the world stage when it comes to commerce and trade. As a result the countries "aggressive industry protective" policies levy heavy tariffs, taxes and import fees on anything into the country that isn't made here. So, this means that quality Violins from anywhere are very difficult to get here, most of it's the worst quality that you can get and very overpriced.

Also if you purchase online a Violin from anywhere outside the country, Arg's gov't charges you a 35% tax ( 35% of the price paid ) right off the bat, like a penalty for buying overseas. Then to have it shipped, after you wait to get it 6 months, they charge you another huge fee just to get it out of customs. It's a nightmare!

Is Iran the same as Argentina in this regard? Are you able to get any decent European or Chinese imported Violins in Tehran?

I say this because "Stagg" is another Chinese brand that is very common here in Argentina as well. The ones I've seen here are VERY inferior quality, but if it's all your budget can afford, you can make them work after a decent set up. I started on a VERY cheap poor quality Violin but with some work was able to make it work.

It's sad because I see some good musicians here that could deserve, and want better instruments but just have no way of getting them.

The other brand you mentioned I've never heard of. Actually, I looked at the Hoffner, don't know much about it but it looks like better quality. I can tell you by looking at it it's MUCH better quality than any of the Stagg Violins I've seen here in Argentina. Avoid Stagg at all costs if you can IMO...but I don't know about this model Stagg, I've never seen it here in Arg.

" I just keep telling myself...."It's all about becoming one with your bow"

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To: EricBluegrassFiddle

Well tariffs and taxes are at least 100% and more here.you pay a 1000$ and get 500$.but if you can afford more than 2000$ you can buy one of the Persian hand-made violins that I believe have much quality than violin in the same range out the country.

Also there are lots of companies that will buy you anything from any online store or even local store from any countries and send you less than 10 days.they work great i think but for the taxes as I mentioned you may pay about 100% to 150% more.

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April 25, 2015 - 7:18 am
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Sounds like you can end up spending a fortune for a bad violin.
My suggestion is that you go for the Persian hand made violins. I imagine that you can even test them before buying them. Franz Hoffmann violins are Chinese so the name is a bit misleading but so are Fiddlerman violins. LOL
We do it openly though.
How much do you have to spend to get a Persian violin?

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but the one who needs the least."

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Fiddlerman said
Sounds like you can end up spending a fortune for a bad violin.
My suggestion is that you go for the Persian hand made violins. I imagine that you can even test them before buying them. Franz Hoffmann violins are Chinese so the name is a bit misleading but so are Fiddlerman violins. LOL
We do it openly though.
How much do you have to spend to get a Persian violin?

Yes Fiddlerman you guess right.I can end up spending a fortune for a bad violin.

Persian hand-made violins start from 2000$ and I can not afford so much for now.

and my question was about hofner not hoffmann or I didn't understand you.

by the way 

thank you for your videos , your forum, your lessons ,... for everything.

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Sorry I have no ideas except to try and find this young man!!

Or this old guy!!

Violinist start date -  May 2013  

Fiddler start date - May 2014

FIDDLE- Gift from a dear friend. A 1930-40 german copy, of a french copy of a Stradivarius.  BOW - $50 carbon fiber. Strings - Dominants with E Pirastro Gold string.

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they both look and sound like viola to me. nice music!

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I liked those videos.  I like the young man playing. I liked his tune.  The red violin/Viola..was nice I am just unfamiliar with the music and tempos... but I liked watching.  I love to watch street playing.

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

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I own a Stagg for six years and I agree with what Eric said about them. I had the luck of it being a decent one compared to those models I see now. It has its issues of course and had to do changes to the setup but seeing and listening to students with violins of the same brand it seems they lowered the quality a lot (looks more plastic than wood and "hums" rather than projecting to the outside. I don't have any experience with hofner violin so I can't say nothing about it.

Take your time researching what it's best for you according to your budget. 

 
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Hi everybody thanks again for your recommendations.

Could anybody help about Yamaha.perhaps It's better to buy from Europe online shops.It'll cost me about 400$ more but I Think for a good violin it does make sense.

and I wonder what's the difference between Yamaha's AV and V versions, for example Yamaha AV5 vs Yamaha V5.I've been surfing the net and there is about 50% difference in price for example this AV5 and this V5

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Not familiar with the Hofner violins.

Bz. Raad, I'll try to get that information for you. I should know but I don't. We have the AV violins here but I'm not sure what the V's are.

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