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Violin comparison test, Please vote
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myguitarnow
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LOL..This may be a great lesson for some including me. I got the Pepsi challenge right years ago, I picked Coca-Cola 😉

The first violin is using Dominants and the second all steel maybe Helicore? The first fiddle is lower quality??

 

PS. Berry we gotta meet up and cheer a beer together but that flag on your wall is fightiin' words to this yankee 😉 

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I would like to say that the second violin is a little more open, especially on the higher notes. So I guess my vote goes to violin #2 but it is very hard to say.

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I vote for violin #2 too (forgot to put in my vote).

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Um, Barry...Looks like you could kick my ass. But i am an Irishman so we don't feel the pain until the job is done. I'll buy you the first beer when we meet up 😉jimi-hendrix

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I liked the sound of #2 a bit better, but #1 wasn't unpleasant.

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my first response was I like violin 2, but after listening to all three songs two times, I have to say I like violin 1 better. Both violins sounds great but sound like they are not quite open yet. Violin 1 has its unique "voice" and it would be great to play windpipe music. Violin 2's lower strings sound muffled/weak to me. Violin 1 has a louder voice as well. (I wrote this before I read others' posts and personal preference of violin sound is affecting my choice.) i do hear a little more metallic sound in violin 1 so my guess is violin one might be steel strings. 

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Good pky. laugh You're supposed to pick what you prefer.

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To my untrained ear, #1 sounds "warmer," but #2 is stronger and clearer sounding.

My vote is for #2.

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Ha, to my husband and daughter's untrained ears, they both like violin 1. My husband said violin one is more brilliant, brighter.

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SaraO said:

Good pky. laugh You're supposed to pick what you prefer.

I did, i said i like violin 1 better. 

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Your untrained ears and my untrained ears could doubtless use some training. 😉

I, however, have the advantage of complete ignorance as to the desireable qualities to listen for – so I win in the ignorance competition. LOL

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I've listened to the video 5 times now, I'm finding it really hard to pick. I think I prefer violin 1. Maybe because the last few notes you did on violin 1 were more in tune then your ending notes for violin 2 dunno 

 

I don't know anything about strings, I don't even know what I'm using and I've never really changed mine before. I've only ever broken 1 string (E string which is rather typical) and I got mum to buy a replacement and my teacher to fix it up for me. 

 

I noticed your playing style is quite traditional fiddle type (classical is the more boring restrictive one which I happen to lean more towards) who taught you to play like that? it's really cool thumbs-up

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i agree with headcheese violin no.1 is warmer but violin no.2 has a clearer and

brighter sound i would say that i like violin no.2

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I like #2 better, but not by much. They both sound good, #2 just appeals to me a bit more. Of course they probably both sound better in person. The conversions that take place, video to Flash to crappy laptop speakers. Just sayin'.

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I like them both for different reasons. Violin 1 sounds warmer and would be great playing waltzes and songs like Scarborough Fair. I agree withe MGN probable has Dominants. The second is brighter and would be great for faster fiddle tunes that make you want to dance. My guess is it has steel strings.
My preference is number 1 because of it's mellow tone.

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I liked V.1 on the first two songs best, but V.2 stood out to me most on the third song. It's hard to decide, but because of how much I liked V.2 in the last song, it's my pick.

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I like this comparison. I am learning from this site and this topic that there no two fiddles sound alike. There are just too many variables that change the sound of the interment. I have 3 now and they will never sound exactly alike. I'm finding that I like all three for different reasons even the one I used to consider a vso. Seems the more I play it the better it sounds. I'm very curious to see the out come tomorrow. Thanks for the topic.

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Okay in my opinion, violin 1 sounds a little darker while violin 2 has a more sharp sound to it. I think both violin is good for different kinds of songs, like the first song, I felt violin 1 was better but during the second song I felt that violin 2 was better. So in my case, I have no vote. It's a tie. LOL.

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Barry said:

Ok, heres the results:

 

Violin #1: Pky,Chinny,Paul ____3 votes

 

Violin #2: MGN,Fiddlerman,SaraO,HeadCheese,Mike logiudice,David Burns,Gennalea______7 votes

 

Huey_ undecided

 

Violin # 1 is a Cremona brand ,model SV-150 made in China ,COST: $130 for complete outfit.  It has a shellac style varnish, rosewood pegs ,chin rest and tail piece.   The strings are far from Dominants folks , They are D,Addarro Preludes...next to red label, they are as cheap a string as you can get, $14 a set.

 

Violin # 2 is my main violin, it is an Otto J Klier, model SE, made in Germany,Cost:$600 outfit. It has a spirit varnish,ebony pegs and tail piece and a bake lite chin rest, the strings are Helicore heavies with a wound E, $40 a set.

 

I think this was an interesting experiment as well as a great way for us to listen to the different tones and textures side by side. As musicians we have to learn to not just hear music,but to listen and break it down to its very core.

 

Does this prove anything...I doubt it, it just shows that people have different tastes in the sounds they hear.

The next thing I plan to do is put the Helicores on violin #1 and dominants on Violin#2  and compare them. Would you folks like me to post a video so you can compare them as well ?

 

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When I listened to the violins.. I almost thought the first one was going to be a Cremona violin. And it was!

My first violin was a Cremona sv-175. It's a great violin for a student, but IMO it sounds awful. I was actually going to try putting a set of better strings on it and see if that makes it sound better.

 

I thought violin #2 sounded a lot better. Violin #1 sounds exactly like my Cremona violin, which I don't like. xD

 

Do you have problems with wolf tones with your Cremona, Barry?

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Thanks for sharing the results. I'm interested in hearing the difference that strings will make on your instruments.

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