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i have been playing guitar for about 6 years and have recently decided to learn violin but have no idea what to get. i have learned from guitar that buying and trading up for a better one later works but you end up losing money in the end. i know that i am going to stick with violin and want to get a good one from the start not an extremely expensive one but one i won't have to turn around and upgrade later. i also know from guitar that if you spend around 1,500 dollars your going to get a good quallity instrument, you can pay more but you don't really NEED to. is that the same for violin? i am not in a position were i can really go to a shop and ask around so i was wondering if you guys could help me out. my only thing is i would prefer an acoustic/electric so i can use my guitar effects. any suggestions?

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http://fiddlershop.com/electri.....-3100.html

 

If you want an acoustic electric I would suggest finding a good acoustic and adding the Barcus Berry pickup with their preamp.  If you know you will only be going electric then stay with an electric violin.

 

You can find a good violin at http://www.fiddlershop.com or rent a violin with an option to buy.

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Hey screwdriver,

There is another option. Acoustic Electric is fine but you can get a HC602 which is a great violin for the money and buy a Barcus Berry pickup to attach to the violin and still use your guitar effects. There are other great options such as The Realist pickup or "The Realist" violin.
The pickups and the violins are available on Fiddlershop.com

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i checked out those violins and am leaning towards the Realist Violin because its all in one. i saw you play the hc602 do you think it would be a better choice? any advice on a bow or rosin or anything else i might have overlooked?

thanks for your help. it means a lot.

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I'm pretty sure that the HC-602 together with a Realist pickup would be better 🙂
I don't think that you could go wrong with that combination. I have a feeling that the Realist Violin is pretty cool but I haven't tried one.

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ok then thats the way i will go. thanks again.

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We can't wait to hear you play your new violin.

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Congrats on deciding to step up to the top of the food chain in strings instruments! I wonder if starting out on an electric is really such a good idea. Don't get me wrong, just starting out on anything is great but I personally feel you need to master many techniques and fundamentals and learning on a true acoustic violin will allow you to learn those and memorize those required muscle movements before transitioning into the region of special effects and such.

Starting out with one of those really beautiful CVN500 (200-250$) is a good choice and the resale value after a year of practicing and learning the basics would allow you to sell it or trade it back for an upgrade to an electric (about 400-500$) so you wouldn't be hurting too bad on a second purchase. Maybe you'd just add a pickup to the one you start with and call it good.

Electric sure sounds cool but I think you need to be able to play one first.

I can hardly wait to hear your progress as well. Keep at it... it only gets better. thumbs-up

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Denny, the HC602 is an acoustic which he is going to add a pickup to.

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The instrument I've used for starting is an electric.  I have to admit that sometimes when I try to get a certain sound from it, I don't know if it is me or the instrument when the sound just isn't quite what I was trying for.  But on the other hand, since it has very little acoustic volume to it, I can play it at 3 AM without bothering anyone. LOL

With almost any instrument, the acoustic and electric versions are in some ways almost different instruments.  Certain things will work well on one that will not work so well on the other.  Even an acoustic instrument that is "electrified" by adding a pickup will not sound exactly the same as it sounds un-amplified.  No amount of effects or eq will make one sound exactly like the other to the discerning ear.  The key is whether it will get it close enough for the player and the audience/listeners. 

A nice acoustic instrument with a good quality pickup is probably the best of both worlds, except for the ability to practice at any hour that the "silent" type of electrics have.  They aren't really silent, obviously, but they are quiet enough to not usually wake sleeping neighbors or room-mates.

Even better in my opinion would be to own both an acoustic and an electric (non-acoustic or "silent" type), but a nice acoustic instrument with a good pickup is probably about the best compromise that can be managed in a single instrument.  You can't really go far wrong with that choice.

I made the choice for an electric instrument even though acoustic ones were available at similar and lower prices.  I chose the way I did because I wanted to be able to record even in a very noisy environment without picking up background sounds, and wanted to be able to play late at night while the rest of the household sleeps.  It has been good for that, and I don't regret the choice.  For me personally, the pluses outweigh the minuses.  But an acoustic violin is still definitely on my want list, it just wasn't the first priority for me personally.  When I do eventually get one, the sad fact will be that I won't be able to play it without considering the time of day, and won't be able to record it when the house is noisy (even a piezo pickup on an acoustic violin will pick up more sound from the room than an electric).  But then I will still have my electric for those times.

But I don't think many people buy both at once when starting, more often folks have to pick one or the other.  At least at first.  I personally don't think either way is a bad choice, though.  Just different. 

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Kevin M. said
Denny, the HC602 is an acoustic which he is going to add a pickup to.

Yea, I knew that... lol. but the OP was a choice between electric or acoustic so I was attempting to reinforce the choice to go acoustic first and justified my choice. The HC602 is pretty awesome, at least the one I did a sound trace analysis on was.

I personally think they sound pretty much the same, true electric (EV) vs. acoustic with a pickup (AV-P).

Of course I think alot has to do with the operator and his/her electric amp gear as well.

A EV can be practiced quieter though, if that was an issue, but I didn't see that posted. An AV with a pickup would still be a loud one.

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