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Wood or Composite Tailpiece?
Which is better?
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wookieman
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August 2, 2013 - 8:47 pm
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Hey everyone,

I've got a crazy, profound, completely subjective question for you.  What do you guys think produces a better sounding violin, Composite or Wood Tailpieces?  Of course the word "better" is up for debate, and I expect that I will get votes for both sides, but I'm curious if anyone has experience with both on one violin maybe, and which sound they liked better. 

That being said, I honestly kind of expect that there is a preference.  Everyone seems to prefer synthetic strings over steel for example, so why wouldn't people have a preference about the tailpiece?  Or does it not make a noticeable difference. 

The tailpiece on my violin is a composite, which seems to be pretty standard, but I've seen that some come with the wood tailpieces.  So many questions in my head, and only you can answer them. 

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I changed my acoustic violin from a carbon fibre tailpiece with built-in fine tuners to an ebony tailpiece with no fine tuners.  I feel it def made a difference so far as a slightly stronger tone, more resonance/sustain.  I like it better on my acoustic.

On the other hand, the CF tailpiece went on my electric (replacing one that was plastic with add-on fine tuners) and sounds nice and the better quality fine tuners alone made it an upgrade, in my opinion. 

As you say, though, "better" is always going to be up for debate, since folks like different sounds and qualities to their sound for playing.  But I can definitely say I felt the differences resulting from changing types/materials of tailpieces was pretty easy to hear.

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changing tailpiece...I say they don't really show obvious difference in sound, probably more on aesthetics, well, I should say go for a wooden one, it's great, traditional, and pros use them, I've never seen a soloist perform using a violin with composite tailpiece.

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I played around changing nearly everything for a while.  It all has some effect on different fiddles. swapped out a metal tail piece for an ebony and saw a big change for the better. swapped a composite for an ebony and heard no difference.

The best upgrade Ive ever heard a real difference from is in strings

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Kevin M.
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You say that everyone prefers synthetic over steel strings but it really has to do with the sound you want from the violin. Many fiddlers prefer steel over synthetic to get the sound they want.

With tail pieces it is much the same. What is the composit made of, are there built in tuners and is it adjusted correctly, meaning where it is in relation to the bridge. The next thing is what wood is the tail piece made of and what style is it. Does it have fine tuners and if so what kind. There is no right answer. It all maters on the sound and the look you want from the instrument. I have found some violins sound good with composit where others don't and vis versa.

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August 3, 2013 - 1:19 pm
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I have yet to notice a difference in sound from changing a tailpiece. I believe most of your sound comes from the vibrations that travel from your strings through your bridge and the body of your instrument. Great differences if you affect the body by for example moving or changing the sound-post or even the bass bar but don't do that unless you are an amateur luthier ;-) Even changing and adjusting the bridge can make a big difference. Strings make a huge difference as well but what comes after the after length, I'm not sure....

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Thanks for the responses everybody!  That's all good to know info and I think @Fiddlerman actually answered my follow on theoretical question; what ARE the tonal differences is wood types when used as fittings.  Thanks all for your responses.  Good stuff!

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