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karawyah
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February 15, 2013 - 1:29 pm
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Hi to all fiddlers! I just joined this site hoping that I can get advice on which brand to buy. I am a beginner "haven't even started to play", but I would like to invest in a good quality violin. Any recommendations for good brands with decent prices? Should I buy a beginner's set first?  - I wasn't sure where to post this question. Sorry if I posted in the wrong group fainting-1344

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Hi Lama,

Welcome to the group. I don't think I'm biassed when I recommend you check out the violins at fiddlershop.com. You should especially look at the Concert Master violin outfit that's offered there. Watch Fiddlerman's video of it, and read the other reviews posted there. That violin could easily last you for a number of years while you're learning to play. Good luck!

Fiddlerman tests many violins and only selects the ones he thinks are good enough to carry in his online store. Of course he stocks more expensive fiddles but a number of folks on this Forum are using the Concert Master and are very happy with it.

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Just a quick update. Checking Fiddlershop.com just now, I see the Concert Master violin has now been renamed "Fiddlerman Concert Violin". The video of it uses the old name "Concert Master". It's still the same good Concert Master violin I recommended (and I'll probably still always call it by that name). smile

 

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I agree with Steve!  Fiddler Shop should be your first stop as you can get all the help you need here!  The forum works like "Live Support" without the hassle!  Not to mention, if you have any problems with any of the products, they will go out of their way to help you!  

You want something of quality & reliability with a first violin, not all cheapo's are the same.  You'll have enough on your plate when you start fiddlin' and don't need the added stress of bad set-ups or bad quality violins.  

I had that problem with mine (....didn't get it from fiddler shop).  The pegs wouldn't hold tuning, the bridge was on backwards, et.  Thankfully, I was able to fix it with all the help from our fellow fiddler's on the forum!  

If could go back, I'd probably start with the Concert Master!  Although, I am eyeing the Kohr 550.  .........wait.....Just checked Fiddler Shop for the spelling of "Kohr" and saw that they have new "Fiddler Man" violins!  Holy crap!  Well.....add the Fiddlerman Master Violin to my list with the 550! LOL

It looks like there's a Fiddlerman Beginner Violin as well that doesn't cost as much.  Maybe Pierre can chime in on that one! LOL

“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” ~Benjamin Franklin

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OH WOW! Thank you Steve and Eric! I was really lost out there. I am new to this site. Just checked out the fiddlershop and the video reviews. I'm totally sold on the "Fiddler Master Violin" - It is within my budget range and it sounds great. Is it the same Concert Master you're talking about Steve? But nobody mentioned the August Khor K565. Is it not so different than the K550? And where are these violins manufactured, if I may ask?

 

Eric, I live in NWI too! Maybe we can meet some day, when I start playing :)

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Just checked out the store again. I now see the Fiddler Concert Violin. That's an excellent price. Thnx Steve for your recommendation. I will weigh my options and decide ;)

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Fiddlershop is like having a Violin Shop right in your own home town.  Easy service, friendly advice, good products, taking the guess work out of so much of the online shopping world.  Pretty soon there will be franschise opportunities?   A Fiddlershop available right around the corner?  Who could ask for more?

 

Mt. Fiddler.

 

 

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Hi Lama,

Certainly if a higher priced fiddle is in your budget, then I would never try to stop you from going for something like the K565 you mentioned!  smile   I don't know just what are all the differences in the fiddles available in Fiddlershop (and I notice there are some new models just added the last couple of days). And from what I've been able to read about them, they are all or almost all Chinese fiddles. There are some really good Chinese luthiers now, and it's definitely no stigma to say you own a Chinese fiddle, at least, in my humble opinion, one that Fiddlerman has personally chosen for his store from the many he tests and can choose from.

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karawyah said
OH WOW! Thank you Steve and Eric! I was really lost out there. I am new to this site. Just checked out the fiddlershop and the video reviews. I'm totally sold on the "Fiddler Master Violin" - It is within my budget range and it sounds great. Is it the same Concert Master you're talking about Steve? But nobody mentioned the August Khor K565. Is it not so different than the K550? And where are these violins manufactured, if I may ask?

 

Eric, I live in NWI too! Maybe we can meet some day, when I start playing :)

That's awesome!  We need some more midwest fiddlers from the region! LOL  I'll have to let you know when we have some of our living histories!  I love playing at those!  

I'm really torn now between the Master Violin and Kohr 550 now.  Oh, decisions, decisions! :D

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About the Chinese violins. I tried German, Romanian, Polish, and Bulgarian violins in the same price ranges as the Chinese. The only ones that come close to the Chinese violins, dollar to dollar are the Bulgarian violins. The high end Chinese violins are fantastic. The wood on the more expensive violins are aged and well selected. Their labor costs are so little compared to other countries so it's no surprise that they have the edge.

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I will agree..get advice here and consult FM for your needs. He has something for everyone.

 

When I was "new" I looked for so much advice on what violin..and the information was overwhelming and biased.

 

In the end if I truly had desire.. I could have learned and used a cheaper violin and been happy... now after a year.. I see a mild difference.  I guess my point is.. as with knitting... "always buy the best yarn you can afford."  

Same with violin....I think it makes me sad when someone really wants to play but won't buy a lessor violin.. I think of all the time they could have been making music.

 

Music makes the world go 'round... violin makes it even better.

 

Good luck.. happy Violin..hold on to your seat and be prepared for a Magnificent Obsession.

 

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

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Thank you all for helping me. You are making it easier on me to decide. I have nothing against the Chinese violins. I have done some research and yes! I definitely agree with Steve and FM on this.

I learned that the closer the grain lines the spruce has, the better. I am sure that craftsmanship is equally important. There is no doubt that the Chinese craftsmanship has risen to the standards of the European craftsmanship. Maybe the European Violins have a higher price tag - just because the name and history behind their craftsmanship and that doesn't make the Chinese products less in excellence and quality.

I am a beginner, and I am not sure how my progress will be. So, it is wise to buy an intermediate level violin that would work for a few good years. If I become a pro, I will definitely invest in a higher quality instrument ;)

 

 

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