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conslib
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February 10, 2013 - 1:50 am
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I hate being that person who joins a forum just to call on the expertise of those who are member of the forum, but it's for a good cause! :) I want to buy my younger brother a violin as his graduation present. It's all he's wanted for the past 6 months and is a dedicated musician to both the alto sax and piano. I have been looking online to try to get a good idea. I went to a local music shop and the lady in there said she would give me a good deal on a violin. She gave me the information from inside the violin and told me I could do my research if I had concerns. Problem is I cannot find any information on this violin. Anyone ever heard of it? Here is the information from inside the violin: GAF Signature Series, Model Sig-1, Made in Germany exclusively for William Lewis and Son, 15856, Anno 1985.  Any information or insight is greatly appreciated! Thanks -Natasha

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Oh yes, william lewis and son, they make fine instruments, that should be very very good! more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.....is_and_Son

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Fiddlerman
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February 10, 2013 - 12:02 pm
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Sounds like it might have been made in Germany :-)

Since you can't test the violin, see if the salesperson can play it for you.
How much do they want for the fiddle?

We sell violins from $89 to over $3000 at Fiddlershop and can show them and play them for you via Skype if you like. The least expensive violins, the Cecilio, we don't stock.
I personally test all the violins that we stock before shipping them and adjust the ones that need be.

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but the one who needs the least."

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February 10, 2013 - 12:55 pm
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Thank you ozmous!

Fiddlerman,

She is asking $375, but said the owner had paid $600 for it originally. I really just need to find him one. Even if she played it for me, I'm not sure that would mean much to me. Perhaps you could help me find one for him. He loves music, but we live in a small town where there are no lessons or instructors, so he's planning to drive 1 hour away just to take lessons. I know you have skype lessons, but we have dial-up internet (getting the small town picture yet?).

So I want to buy him a decent violin since I know he will use it for years. He's going away to college in the Fall and plans to minor in music and take violin at the university. So, can you recommend a good violin for us from your shop? I would ideally like to play $300-$400.

Thanks!

Natasha

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Be hesitant if you plan to purchase as your sole instrument, one that you cannot listen to. You need to consider shipping and insurance charges, to and from IF they allow a return. Do not ever listen to the story about what someone paid for it.

1: On the cost its almost never verifiable what they really paid

2: They are trying to part with it for some reason legitimate or other wise

3: You have no idea what originally came with the violin that may or may not be included or was altered/changed after ownership

Purchase your instrument on how it is to you. Its worth can only be valued by the purchaser. If you believe it to be fair and decent value, then by all means. Personally, I'd have a very hard time buying a violin not having heard it played or really, been played by me. Regardless of what people say its worth, the value to the owner is what counts. Just insure the value/cost is tangible and realistic. There are an incredible number of not so good playing instruments. Looks and cost seldom go together with playability and sound in the "stock" range under $1000.

Whatever you decide, even just changing out strings or in my case, replacing my bow made my violin sing. So, I guess what I am saying, dont rely on someone else. The instruments player is the one who really needs to decide is the instrument right for them.

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I'm new to all this fiddle\violin stuff and I have a cheap fiddle {it was purchased for my daughter years ago} But in the near future I will be shopping for one myself. I intend to purchase one from the Fiddlershop. From what I have gathered it is directly connected to this forum and with that said any pros\cons with it can be discussed right here > now thats SWEET. Fiddlerman is always active on this site and that is HUGE to have him right here to help you or your brother along with the instrument. I just bought some strings from the Fiddershop and the service was very good.

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Fiddlerman
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February 10, 2013 - 6:23 pm
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conslib,

My intention is not to hurt a local brick and mortar shop but we know that we stock the best instruments for the money and keep track of what other online shops are paying to be very competitive. Some of our violins are way below any online shop for the same product. For example the August Kohr K565 is selling at our shop for $679.00 and we've seen them at other sites at over 1,100.00
http://www.theviolincenter.com.....t-K565.htm
This shop is charging 1210,00 with the equivilant to the strings that we put on these violins.

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but the one who needs the least."

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Conslib,

Dont forget that he can record his playing and post it on this forum and we will all offer advice and answer questions. And watching the FM vids or and playing the learning games will be very helpful to him.

"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.

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February 10, 2013 - 7:19 pm
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conslib said
 

So I want to buy him a decent violin since I know he will use it for years. He's going away to college in the Fall and plans to minor in music and take violin at the university. 

Natasha

Welcome to the forum, Natasha. It's very nice of you giving something very special to your brother.

Buying a good violin that could be used for years to come without upgrading is very hard taking into account of lot of consideration, as Ozmous, FM, Ty, StoneDog, pfish advice in their posts.

I like to share my opinion/experience of what I've been going through, as an 8 month beginner who, during that time, have been purchased 7 violins.

According to German violin naming convention, the violin you're looking at is classified as a mass production/beginner/entry level violin. The next level up will have at least the shop name printed in its label.

Violin price is not always reflected its sound, playability and quality. My two German made violins (classified as intermediate/advance student grade, about $800.00 new) are at the bottom scale of the violins I have, while a $30.00, 90ish yrs old, Czech made to the 2nd place which only a bit behind, or even surpassed in some aspects to my $1800.00 Romania made violin. There are lot to consider as quality/workmanship, set up, string etc.

It's really to judge how a violin performance just by looking at it or hearing someone playing for a few minutes, without actually having it for a week or so. I find it's hard to go out and buy a violin, even though I can do most of the set up, bridge replacement and adjustment/fine tuning.

The best thing is buying from someone/shop who knows the instrument, thoroughly testing/playing to assure its quality/performance for years to come, if this is your first attempt in buying a violin.

Fiddlerman said
conslib,

My intention is not to hurt a local brick and mortar shop but we know that we stock the best instruments for the money and keep track of what other online shops are paying to be very competitive. Some of our violins are way below any online shop for the same product. 

In all of those web musical stores out there, this is your very best bet as Pierre, aka Fiddlerman, put his personal touch/testing on instrument to assure its quality. If I am to go buying a violin, I would rather pay a bit higher to have some peace of mind, and FM price is very competitive, if not the very best out there.

Good luck with your purchase and welcome again.

 

 

 

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