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UnseenPT
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July 22, 2013 - 4:14 pm
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Hi, im a violin fan and i got one that seems to be pretty old. Would like to know a bit more about it, like if its a good one and his price...

Here are some photos i took:

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Thanks :)

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Fiddlerman
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July 22, 2013 - 5:23 pm
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You can never tell by the pictures.
What is the price?

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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So you dont know what violin is that ?

the person who gaved it to me said it was from a famous musician who use to say that there are only 2 violins like that, this one and the other is in a german museum who tryed to buy this one offering ALOT of money... and thats what make me curious about it.

btw thanks alot for the attencion !

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@Pierre

I believe UnseenPT was meaning to ask for an appraisal, but UnseenPT did not express it that way. ("Failure to communicate")

 

The Brompton’s Book of Violin & Bow Makers

Author: John Dilworth

LEGNANI, Luigi Worked 1760-1770 Naples Italy. Claimed to be a pupil of Zosimo Bergonzi. Vannes and Henley remark on the similarity of his model, although Zosimo’s work is exceedingly rare. Luigi Legnani alumnus / Zosimo Bergonzi fecit Neap. 1765

 

  (I copied and pasted the foregoing off the internet, very easy to find that information by searching with Google using the names).

 

For the benefit of those who do not know already, there are a lot (actually millions) of instruments around with labels bearing names like Amati, Guarneri, and Stradivarius. But there are only a very few (hundreds of ?) original authentic instruments made by Amati, Guarneri and Stradivarius. I think most Amati violins are now being mass produced in China. It is even easier to mass produce labels than to mass produce violins.

 

I think that if the instrument belonged to a famous musician, the name of the famous musician would be known, but as the name does not appear to be known it is unlikely the musician concerned was as famous as other people might have one believe. All of which does not prove anything. The fundamental value of the instrument to a musician is in the sound characteristics. A famous musician would naturally own and play an excellent violin.

 

Interested persons can send violins to Bromptons for an appraisal, to be appraised the instrument needs to be heard and inspected "live", eyeball to wood and ear to strings.

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My observations of the violin.

First if you look at the f holes there are no marks for bridge placement on the bass side.

Second take a close look at the ribs, I can see no tigering and the grain seems to not be from quarter sawn wood.

The next thing I notice is on the label it says Violin. I have never seen a label with the description of what the in strument is and is seems to be writen on a piece of looseleaf paper, You can make out the blue lines. Is there a label inside the violin?

From the pictures I would say this is just someone who made a violin for himself.

The most important thing here is how does it play. String it up and play it, it might sound nice.

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to expand on the bass side f hole, it looks as if it was widened, maybe as easy access for a repair or something. Like Pierre says, hard to tell from pictures, but the finish looks pretty modern.  most likely a factory fiddle

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The oversize f hole on the base side is the first thing that caught my attention also. Secondly, the writing on the lable appears to be written in ball point pen, which is not uncommon, since bp pen's have been around since the late 1800's.

I would have it informally appraised by a common luthier, just to give some kinda idea of the value.

Good luck with it.

 

Ken.

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Thanks for posting.. I love to see the old violins.  I would love to hear more about it when / or if you get it appraised.

 

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