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patience1088
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Looking for affordable and decent violin to finally get to learn the instrument I would have CHOSEN to learn in school 🙂 Anyone who knows of one available please let me know, I'd like it to be something I may one day pass on to my own daughter if she chooses.

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Where do you live patience? Check out my reviews on the CVN-200. The only problem is that you never know in advance what you will get. On the up side the price is REAL right. kkmusicstore sells it for $100.

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I live in southern New York. I checked out the review. And that seems like a nice instrument even for a hundred bucks. Buying anything from online stores scares me sometimes. So many things are rip offs, so it is nice to have a recommendation. I will have to look through what they have. Thanks.

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Hi patience and welcome to the forum. I live real close to kkmusicstore and do know they check and adjust all of their instruments before shipping. Violins are fragile especially the soundpost so the violin will get shaken up from the shipping. Make sure to get somebody that can look over your violin to re-adjust if you do purchase online.

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I think that they have a good exchange policy in case you are not satisfied with your purchase. Check out the many posts we have on this forum about kkmusicstore. I did a search and found too many but this was my result.

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I own a cvn 500 and I really like it, even though I have problem with my A string (but like MGN said, it could be my bowing skill and it has gotten better since i paid more attention to my bowing). My daughter has a cvn 500 1/4 size, we both like it, too. Hers looks more perfect than mine. i ordered a cvn 100 1/8 size for her, but it was too small so i returned it. That one looked okay.

i probably should have ordered a cvn 600 or 700 so i could pass it down to my daughter in the future. I may still do it.

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One thing about cvn is the total length is equivalent to arm length, e.g., total length for 1/4 violin is 18.5 inches, a full size violin is 23".

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I am a little confused about your last post pky. Can you clarify for me please.

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Well I have to say like a godsend I was able to find a  Palatino 3/4 violin in my home town for sale for 100. Now I am not familiar with violin brands and such so is there anything i should look at or for with this violin if I were to purchase it?

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Fiddlerman, below is your chart about violin's sizes. A cvn 500 1/4 size would have 11.5 inches body length, but the total length would be 18.5 inches long. The 1/4 violin we have on loan has 19 inches total length. Another example would be according to your chart, a 4/4 violin would have a total length of 23.5 inches long, but my CVN 500 4/4 violin has a total length of 23 inches long. Remeber the cvn 100 1/8 size I ordered was smaller (in body length and total length, and the width was narrower as well)? It could have been a 1/10, but it was much smaller than our rental one.

Violin sizes
size          body length          total length          width
4/4          14″(356 mm)       23.5″ (597 mm)    7.5″(191 mm)
7/8          13.5″ (343 mm)   22.5″(572 mm)    7.25″(184 mm)
3/4          13″(330 mm)       21.75″(552 mm)   7″(178 mm)
1/2          12.5″ (318 mm)    20.5″ (521 mm)   6.75″(172 mm)
1/4          11.5″ (292 mm)    18.75″(476 mm)  6″(152 mm)
1/8          10.25″(260 mm)  17.25″(438 mm)  5.5″(140 mm)
1/10         9.25″(235 mm)    16″(406 mm)       5″(127 mm)
1/16         8.25″(210 mm)    14.5″ (368 mm)   4.45″(113 mm)

 

Vionlin size chart of KK music store

Violin Sizes by Arm Length or Age
4/4 (Full Size) 23" 12 year and older
3/4 22" 10-11
1/2 20" 8-9
1/4 18 1/2" 6-7
1/8 16 1/2" 5-6
1/10 15" 4-5
1/16 14" 3
1/32 13" 2 and
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hi i got my violin from kkmusicstore.com it got here on monday and it was it great shape which was a surprise since i live on the other side of the country from where they are located. everything was wrapped real nice and nothing was broken which was a relief. I guess it just depends on who handles it and how they handle it from the store to your home. The violin i got is the cvn-200 and it looks better in person. hope you find a great violin.

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Feels a bit like Christmas when the violin arrives! Makes me want to order another...lol

 

Dave

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David Burns said:

Feels a bit like Christmas when the violin arrives! Makes me want to order another...lol

 

Dave

 

Exactly! I'm hunting a smaller violin right nowwink have fun with yours, violinnewbee!

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Congrats Violinnewbee24,

I agree that they look better in person. Enjoy and welcome to the forum.

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Thank you fiddlerman it is a beautiful violin. yes it is dave just like christmas. i got mine for my birthday last weekend so i guess birthdays too. LOL I have recently learned "Over the rainbow" just for fun. I could not be happier with everything i got with it. And thank you pky! I am everyday!

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Well I finally found a violin.  It is in great shape and ready to play.... now I am just a little anxious as to where I should begin....I really can't afford lessons and have been self taught on many other musical instruments, but the violin seems intimidating to me... I am practicin now just to draw the bow and get a steady sound. Learning the notes tho seems difficult. any suggestions ?

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Congrats on finding a violin!!!! thumbs-up I had the same problem with reading notes fiddlerman has some games on here to help learn the notes and everything you could give those a try. Congrats again and have fun!!!!violin_girl

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patience1088 said:

Well I finally found a violin.  It is in great shape and ready to play.... now I am just a little anxious as to where I should begin....I really can't afford lessons and have been self taught on many other musical instruments, but the violin seems intimidating to me... I am practicin now just to draw the bow and get a steady sound. Learning the notes tho seems difficult. any suggestions ?

Hi, welcome!

First of all, go to this page on this site : Finger board chart

This will tell you in a very general way, where your fingers go for the different key signatures. (Please don't ask me to explain keys, far to complex for me). Then hopefully you have a smart phone, Android or Iphone. There is an app called Gstring lite, it is a stringed instrument tuner. Set it up and set it to autotune. It displays the note letter at the top with a needle gauge, too low is to the left too high is to the right. Drawing the bow across the strings to make even sounds is great practice. Pick a string, look at the fingerboard chart, place a finger on the approximate location and pull the bow across the string. Have a look at the tuner. Adjust your finger til you get it right. Remember what it sounded like when it was wrong as well as when it was right. Move on to the next finger. Play open string, first finger, second finger, third finger, fourth finger. There, you just played half an octave. I think. If you are just bowing and putting fingers down, you won't break anything. Experiment with different bow pressures, different locations for the bow, close to the bridge, in the middle, near the fingerboard. Most of all have fun!

 

Dave

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patience1088 said:

Well I finally found a violin.  It is in great shape and ready to play.... now I am just a little anxious as to where I should begin....I really can't afford lessons and have been self taught on many other musical instruments, but the violin seems intimidating to me... I am practicin now just to draw the bow and get a steady sound. Learning the notes tho seems difficult. any suggestions ?

Hello. I do agree that learning the notes seems so difficult. I am currently learning it too and I gotta say it is really confusing but I learn online so it's probably better if you have a friend whom learns music to teach you. Online learning about notes is really hard but after awhile and watching fiddlerman's videos, I managed to understand the basics. Good luck learning!!smile

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