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Fiddlerman 2016 Group Christmas Project - Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas
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Fiddlerman
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December 5, 2016 - 8:51 am
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Guys, just one week left for submissions. Let's have fun and make a great video together. Remember to have some ornaments and such in your video. Not a bad idea to dress in red, green, white..... Christmassy colors....

Thanks. Looking forward to this one.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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December 5, 2016 - 11:52 am
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We've done this before - but rather than starting a separate thread - anyone who wants to can (aand possibly should, for confidence, if nothing else) post their "trial / practise" takes here as well - it is ALWAYS a good thing to do and get that camera rolling before the "oh, I'll record it when I've got it right" moment arrives ( which is often too late - LOL )  

OK - this is what I was doing earlier today.... when it all went to heck-in-a-handcart ( LOL ) - it's a practise take of the vln lead/solo. However - what I did was to play along to a backing track on headphones generated by synthesized cello, flute (which could have been made somewhat more present in the mix) and a low-tom and side-stick drum... It was NOT as good as I wished - but I wanted to share it - so I post-processed it to mix-back-in the original backing track I was listening to - so you could hear it more or less as I did while recording.... the audio has ended up slightly out of synch with the video - no matter - here's the end result - warts and all - - and yes - it was a sunny December morning in the north of Scotland ! And @lydharp - you working on this ? A week left for submissions lass !
 

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Fiddlerman
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December 5, 2016 - 1:34 pm
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Great idea Bill, and thanks for the post!!!

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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BillyG
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December 5, 2016 - 3:11 pm
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You're welcome @Fiddlerman - it's just a way of hopefully inspiring folks to get "out there" - like my above post "warts and all" (where I intentionally added slight timing variations just to kill the audio-boredom of long-long sustains and to bring part of the rhythm that other voices bring to the overall piece) and getting folks used to being recorded - you don't HAVE to be perfect....

I'm planning to do the cello part as well ( if I don't have to go away again in the next few days ) - but it will be a "strange" cello part - I like the cello melody-line a lot - and - NOOOO - I don't have a real cello (yet!) - but- I do have a viola-strung fiddle ( uh-huh - you know the one - ol' Hermano dell Diablo ) - well - I've stuck a $5 Ali-Express / ebay piezo pickup on Hermano, and, playing him through my guitar FX box with the octave-dropper set properly - he's in range.... LOLOL  

( OK, OK, I know, I know, I've lost the plot entirely but you all knew that already.... ) - anyway - no promises all depends on time - but I have had a quick test-run already and it works - and sounds - well - not exactly like a cello but with the added sustain and harmonic chorusing etc your imagination does the rest.......  at least it's in the expected register.... I'll need a good few play-throughs first, but time and travel permitting, I'll see what I can do...  fingers crossed...    all good...

Bring it on folks !!!!!  drummerdrummerdrummerdrummer

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I'm doing my best to learn it on time! 🙂 I try to make all the "non-solo" parts to help the project and I hope I'll manage to finish at least two of them...

I should go recording to the streets of Prague which are frozen and all white, especially the trees - it looks like winter kingdom. But I'm afraid I'd change to ice, it's terribly cold. violin-1267

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Another movie to support you... I hope you'll hear something more than the noise of the mic... 🙂

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Fiddlerman
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December 6, 2016 - 10:24 am
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@terezka - It's extremely dark and I hear a lot of crackling noises. The gain is way too low as well. What kind of camera/mic are you using?

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December 6, 2016 - 11:43 am
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Yup - thanks for sharing the practice-take @terezka - out of interest, what is the EV you have there ?   It sounds like mine ( LOL - what a stupid thing to say, Bill !  Almost all un-amped EV's with no FX will sound much-the-same to a large extent - ignore me! ).   Yeah, as Pierre said it was spoiled somewhat by the crackling noises, but I know, it was just a practice - as they say "warts and all"... LOL  violin_girl

Thank you for letting us know where you "are" with it...   Cool ! 

P.S.  Keep warm in the Winter Kingdom of Prague !

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December 6, 2016 - 2:12 pm
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Yay...thanks (both) for sharing your progress.  

I should be in on time for this one.  I have it mostly.  I need to spend some times with the click track now.  

Love the project and all the enthusiasm.

Cheers.

Toni

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

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Thank all of you for your replies 🙂

The recording is absolutely odd, I know. It's just my notebook camera with unamped electric violin, that's the way I practise when the kids are sleeping.

All the electric violins sound almost the same, really. 😀 This one sounds a bit better, it's hand made by a luthier and I like it much more than all the factory pieces I've ever tried. My teacher hates it. 😀 Nevermind, our last class was 5 years ago. :DDD

Bad news - another flare of my arthritis is here. But I hope I'll manage to keep practising and recording to join you. I must play before the illness eats my joints!

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BillyG
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December 6, 2016 - 3:58 pm
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terezka said
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Bad news - another flare of my arthritis is here. But I hope I'll manage to keep practising and recording to join you. I must play before the illness eats my joints!

devil-violin  

  Take care there - don't drive-yourself too hard.   It's not advisable to "play through the pain"- when it starts to hurt  - STOP !   thumbs-up

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@terezka What a shame to hear of the arthritis.  I hope you have caught it in time and perhaps it will let up in time for the project, or you can get your recording out before it consumes you. (what a nitemare for a violinist).

Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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Thanks for your concern, folks. I'm lucky, the illness affects mainly my spine, hips and sacroiliac joints, the fingers are OK. If I find a way how to stand, I can play, too. (I hope the progress will be slow!)

I've just saunabathed and it's much better, I'm going to practise! 😀 saint_patricks_dayviolin-1267

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BillyG
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December 7, 2016 - 8:09 am
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**** ATTENTION PLAYERS OF VLN 4 PART  ****

  There appears to be an error in the published Vln 4 pdf score-sheet - which was identified by our new member, @wisco kid

  There is a bar missing - bar 26.   Which made it real hard to match-in with the click track !   What's even stranger is that the bar numbering on the score is also wrong - there are 57 bars in the actual piece, the vln-4 score shows only 56 ( when you count them ! ) even although it "appears" to end on bar 57.

  Here's an update that you can pencil-in on your own printed sheet for vln-4

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  The bar numbers, to the left, in black, are the original as found in the pdf file.   The bar numbers in red, above each bar, were added by me....  clearly something goes wrong by the time bar 32 ( really 31 in the original ) is reached.... and it's all down to the missing bar 26.

  If you're playing vln-4 - mark up your sheet to remind you to play bar 25 twice....

EDIT: I've checked - and all the other parts are fine, it's only Vln 4 that's affected...

EDIT (again!) : See post #55 below - Pierre has just this minute updated the Vln 4 pdf which is somewhat more interesting rather than just repeating bar 25 !!!!   LOL

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Fiddlerman
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Sorry guys. I don't know why but one measure was missing in the original. The funny thing is that when I opened Finale, the measure was indeed there and not missing. I just extracted the part and it appeared.
Re-download the part please and help spread the word. The real measure 26 was missing. 🙁
https://fiddlerman.com/wp-cont.....olin-4.pdf
Everything should be good now. Thanks for the catch guys.

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How many submissions do you have by now, Pierre? @Fiddlerman

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BillyG
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Oh well - done my best...  it's been sprended.  (Is there such a word?)...

If I get half a chance I have a "fake" cello version to come, but I'm kind of overloaded with other stuff right now - if I get a chance tomorrow I'll do it....

Keep 'em coming folks.....

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BillyG
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Also - hey folks - remember this - if you DO send via "sprend" -  it WILL (automatically) be deleted after 7 days if you have not gone "pro" on sprend .... so just in case you sent a post in REALLY EARLY - it is always possible it was "not seen in time" if the recipient is away, is on holiday, or is otherwise pre-occupied....   

Just saying - it's always possible....   I have been known to not pick up emails for 4 or 5 days - and that's getting close to the "sprend" auto-delete time - and I'm a lazy old bloke....   LOL

It would be nice if "sprend" gave feedback on a "pick-up" by the recipient - well - maybe the paid-for pro version does - I don't know....   but it's worth thinking about if you suspect your "sprend" was lost or not seen....

Good point ( I think ) ...

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A comment on YouTube regarding one of my "animated scores"....   happy to know the effort has been useful...   and - hahaha you'll like my corrected typo @Fiddlerman

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OK, 3 movies have been "sprent". 😀 Why, for God, do I feel absolutely crippled and I play much worse when tha camera is on? 🙁

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