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Andre Rieu
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Just sat here bored watching that fellow Andre Rieu, in a concert in Mainau, I am not a fan of his to be honest, While watching I wondered if he was actually playing or if he was letting his orchestra do it, and he is now just a figurehead, and takes an easy ride.

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The first time I saw him, I thought to myself "he's not doing more with that violin than any sixth-former". That's kind of missing the point, but the reality is stranger...

He went to a conservatory - where you normally spend 3 years - and refused to leave until he had won first prize for violin playing. He spent 9 years at that frigging conservatory!

He's clearly a good organiser, though. Some friends of mine thought he was a billionnaire. He's not worth that much (well, he wasn't 10 years ago when they were raving about him), but he's got enough to build a concert hall/practice room/recording studio/music shool, which is a nice project for any musician to have.

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Nine years, thats what you call dedication. Mind you, when he eventually won his prize he would have been competing against kids a lot younger and with less playing experience so not that great a victory. He is a good organiser, no doubt about that, also a good showman. I had wondered how much he paid his musicians, I thought there cant be a lot left over after putting on the show as well. Still he is worth a few bob more than me I bet.

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I'm pretty sure he's actually playing; he's an excellent violinist and he's playing music that a good amateur orchestra can play well on one rehearsal, so it's not as if playing it is really any work for him. It's all more about the showmanship than the playing, anyway. Everything is amplified, of course, because there's no other way the orchestra would be heard at his enormous outdoor concerts.

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You are right about the showmanship, I watched another one were he is in Vienna, quite a few thousand there think it was at the hoffburg,anyway he didnt half put à show on, bits of comedy as well as the music, audience loved it. You dont happen to know what violin he was playing do you?

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He has one of Stradivari's earliest violins, and probably uses it when performing in smaller indoor venues, but I seriously doubt that it's the instrument he plays in his bigger concerts. I would guess that he plays something substantially less expensive in larger venues.

Very few pros play their "good" string instruments in outdoor or amplified settings. The risk of damage to the instrument is higher, and differences in tone quality are not as noticeable as they would be in a concert hall with state-of-the-art acoustics and a near-silent audience. Many pros use their best instrument when playing in a concert hall, but also have a much less expensive instrument (often a high-end workshop instrument) that they use for outdoor and/or amplified gigs.

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I'm not a fan I must say.

For some unfathomable reason I just took an immediate dislike to him the first time I set eyes on him. I think it might be something to do with the cheesy, insincere grin that's constantly plastered across his face.

I suppose if he gets more people listening to classical music it's a good thing. I'm always moaning about the ridiculous formality of most classical concerts and he certainly blows that out of the water.

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Lollipops with saccharine frosting presented in a plastic wrapper.

Satisfies a certain audience in the way Twinkies satisfy children.

He's a kind of genius.

He's refilled the niche that was left vacant by Mantovani's demise.

But he's probably more musical than Mantovani was.

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Fluffy. Massive fluffiness. 

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He is doing something right because a lot of people like what he is doing. :)
Andrew is right, the works that he performs with the orchestras are the same ones that orchestras do for so many pop concerts in which a good orchestra can read and play well the first time through.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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It occurred to me a couple of days ago, though, that his 9 years at conservatory in search of a first prize indicate that he wanted to be a serious violinist, but clearly he isn't, in the sense that whatever noises he makes are sunk in all the corn and crinoline, so does his money make him happy, or is he a secretly miserable failed artist?

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I alway felt André Rieu put on a concert more like a 'Pops Orchestra' - featuring solos, singing & dancing, but musical entertainment directed at the general public.  Music being the focus, not his talents as a violinist.

Different from someone like David Garrett, who puts on a great concert, but even though he includes an orchestra, features other artists & might be meant for the general public - he still keeps the focus/spotlight on his talent as a violinist. 

I have high praise for ALL Violinists, Violists & Cellists who are making money entertaining with their hard-earned skills! 

 

André Rieu's (2023) 'Home for Christmas' Concert. 

 

Compare to: 'The Maestro & The European Pop Orchestra' (Netherlands) - 2023 Top 10 Christmas Carols.  Focus is on Guido Dieteren (violinist) and his wife, Wendy Kokkelkoren (solo vocalist).  This Orchestra has concerts scheduled in California next week!

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Goofy, but he seems to have found a market for that particular goofiness...

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